Thread: The great petrol vs diesel debate

A mecanic told me the other day that the main line cars are going to be built in China in the near future, and the $15-20,000 cars are going to be availabal for $10-15 shortly. They'll turn into a disposabal item, when they brake down or need replacing, you get it wreaked or crushed.
Be sticking with petrol from now on I think. When it goes bang, it won't hurt as much. Or buy new, and replace once warenty is getting close to running out

You guys are right about how late(ish) model 4wd's are crazy expensive, looking at anything post 2010 makes me weak in the knees.
There are 2012 4wd Hilux's with three hundred thousand K's on the clock and they want $25k+ for them. Even Nissan Patrols are crazy money with 10ish year old models and 200,000ks and they want 60-65% of the cost of a new one!!! Makes me want to buy new but fuck spending that sort of capital, I would (should) rather invest it.

I guess I'll just drive my 97 1kzte Prado till you cant buy diesel anymore.

Are the injector problems actually very common? I did the ones in mine but know nobody else that has, I sourced a set out of a wrecked vehicle with 15,000k on the clock which cost me $400, took all of an hour to change them. If I had've been buying new I would've looked to get them tested and only replaced the one that was faulty. With a bit of knowledge, research and willingness to get your hands dirty you can pick up some bargins.

Thanks to this forum, especially @longrange308 for helping to diagnose the problem.

I much prefer EFI over carburetors and mechanical injection.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Are the injector problems actually very common? I did the ones in mine but know nobody else that has, I sourced a set out of a wrecked vehicle with 15,000k on the clock which cost me $400, took all of an hour to change them. If I had've been buying new I would've looked to get them tested and only replaced the one that was faulty. With a bit of knowledge, research and willingness to get your hands dirty you can pick up some bargins.

Thanks to this forum, especially @longrange308 for helping to diagnose the problem.

I much prefer EFI over carburetors and mechanical injection.

I think injector problems are not uncommon, but thankfully not overly expensive to fix.
It's thing like the fuel pump going which cost the big $$ to replace, or if the injectors are left in a bad state other problems occur.

The most import part of your post is "With a bit of knowledge, research and willingness to get your hands dirty you can pick up some bargins."
Whilst you may have fixed it for $400 yourself, if you had taken it to a shop they would've said you need new injectors for $2000, plus a couple of hundred in labour.
My in laws spent hundreds of dollar trying to fix a problem on their Toyota Echo, took it to multiple different Toyota garages who ran diagnostics and replaced a few different parts over the space of a year and never got it right. Brother in law came to visit and found a Youtube video showing the fix for the problem,
5 minutes and a new relay later, never had a problem again.

The shaggers up to 2011 are notorious for doing seals which left unchecked lunches the entire engine.
Your engine has a good rep for reliability.
The first of the 2.8 colorados random engines had oil burning issues.
First of the new shape ranger has had a few grenade with low kms and the auto box is a weak point, know of one that locked up and sent the truck sideways with less than 1000km !

All in all it doesnt inspire confidence in spending 30-40k on a highish km one of any brand.

@Trout is yours auto or manual?

Hi Pointer
Gearbox is auto o/d,good gearbox,never changed the oil in it yet after 13yrs.Oil still nice redy clean colour.Mind you iv never towered stuff all with it either.See a nice new white Y62 just sold few days ago.Dropped from 127ks down to 80ks to move it tho.Thats the second white patrol to drop to 80ks to move off the show room floor in the last 3years.Hmmm.Id like one with 100000ks on the clock,say 4yrs old.Gota go cheap.

Originally Posted by Trout

Hi Pointer
Gearbox is auto o/d,good gearbox,never changed the oil in it yet after 13yrs.Oil still nice redy clean colour.Mind you iv never towered stuff all with it either.See a nice new white Y62 just sold few days ago.Dropped from 127ks down to 80ks to move it tho.Thats the second white patrol to drop to 80ks to move off the show room floor in the last 3years.Hmmm.Id like one with 100000ks on the clock,say 4yrs old.Gota go cheap.

You should definitely have changed the oil in the last 13 years red blue or black!