Thread: New truck.

Originally Posted by Cartman

Anyone know the go to diesel guys in invercargill?

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Hoffman diesel mechanics are who I have used in the past

Originally Posted by Cartman

Anyone know the go to diesel guys in invercargill?

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Hoffmans rebuilt my 1KD when it blew up, and had a couple others in there at the same time. So they'll know what they're doing with it

In Gore, the guys at AG Diesel are very good.

I learnt a lot about that model Hilux when it came out and I bought one and it crapped out

Oh dear. @JoshC, wait was it that failed? Dreaded injector problem?

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Oh dear. @JoshC, wait was it that failed? Dreaded injector problem?

It was a few moons ago now, just before they released the information about replacing seals and seat in the injectors. I presumably had leaking injectors, which cracked number one, and holed 2 and 3 pistons. Engine just suddenly locked up towing a trailer at highway speed.

Was in the middle of now where, with no cell coverage, so managed to start it and drive it home - albeit very loud and rattly. Got me home though!

It was only like 5000 kms out of warranty and had just been serviced by the dealership in September. A couple or three weeks later they released the bulletin on replacing seats and seals.

Long story short, dealership didn't want to know me, unless I spent $14-18k (not quote, just estimated) on them rebuilding the engine.

So I towed it home, ripped the motor out, stripped it, dropped it in town and picked it up rebuilt with new injectors a couple weeks later and put it back in. Cost me less than $6000.

Ran the new engine in, then sold it to a mate and bought a landcruiser. He treated that hilux like sh*t and put a couple hundred thousand kms on it with no issues, then wrote the truck off when someone t-boned him at an intersection.

One more question about the Hilux, the battery is frequently getting to a point where it is only just turning over the motor, so far it hasn't left me stranded but it is a sinking feeling every time it happens and I am just waiting for the inevitable. Toyota tested the battery and said it was fine and the issue was that the battery is only being charged to 60% to improve the fuel economy. All very noble until you don't open the door to turn off the auto headlights for a few minutes or leave an interior light on. Apparently Prados have a temp sensor which will increase the charge rate in cold weather but not the hilux's. I have a workmate with a newer Hilux who has had to be jump started several times. Is there a solution to this?

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@Braklelie
Hilux idle up switch/button
Will either look like this......in the centre consol in front of the gear lever



or this....on the RH side panel about knee height

The Hilux has a idle up switch just like the Prado. Has HEAT and a wiggly doofa on it. Only operates until the engine is up to operating temp.

The batteries need 14.1V to keep the battery charged. Hilux's have had an issue with the alternators failing and shorting out the main fuse. Replacement alt needed to fix.
If the battery is not fully charges running it will never charge it properly. It only gives it a surface charge. Testing a battery with a surface charge will give a false reading also.
It will need to be charged then tested.
If the Hilux is sluggish to start it will just create wear on the starter contacts and then they will fail.

@Cartman

This is what I drained out of my Provent catch can this morning. About 2500km worth of condensed oil that would have gone through the intercooler, met with the hot EGR gases and baked onto the inner surfaces of the intake system.



These things are essential. They just are. God knows why the manufacturers didn’t deal with this as OEM.

I'm going to fit a catch can next service.
Fitted some ironman fully adjustables in the front and a sports bar on the back

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@Cartman I assume that your truck has a record of the timing belt being changed at 150,000km? Tappets should have been done too. I was thinking that about now would be a good time to clean that intake system before you fit the catch can, wondering what else you can do while you're there.

Yep cam belt changed at 150. Will get a thorough sort out next service.

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Double oh dear. That whole episode was not Toyota's finest hour. Strictly speaking it was Denso who was at fault. Their common rail injection systems are found in about half the cars and trucks manufactured, not just Toyota, and they had similar problems across a wide range of vehicles, especially in Europe.

Dealerships lost a huge amount of credibility. I despise most dealerships, bunch of crooks. We were in Aus while most of this was going down, the problem was double as bad there in the north of the country, because on top of the leaky seals problem there was widespread fuel contamination due to bulldust, rust particulates and water ingress into old bowser tanks in monsoon areas. The factory filter couldn't deal with it, when the first ones came out on the 1KD it was supposed to be "inspected" every 12 months which they didn't do, and never changed which is insane. Then they altered the service interval to replacement every 40,000km. Which is still insane. In NZ I see the interval is now 30,000km or when the light comes on cos its detected water by which time it could be too late. I changed by pre-filter every 20,000 and the factory filter every 10,000km.

The holed pistons problem is usually caused by an irregular injector spray pattern and dripping, which in turn is caused by damage to the injector nozzle from water or other contaminents. Cockies and forestry guys that refuel a lot from jerry cans and old tanks on the farm are particularly at risk. I always advise additional fuel filtration on these vehicles. Mine looks like this:

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Double oh dear. That whole episode was not Toyota's finest hour. Strictly speaking it was Denso who was at fault. Their common rail injection systems are found in about half the cars and trucks manufactured, not just Toyota, and they had similar problems across a wide range of vehicles, especially in Europe.

Dealerships lost a huge amount of credibility. I despise most dealerships, bunch of crooks. We were in Aus while most of this was going down, the problem was double as bad there in the north of the country, because on top of the leaky seals problem there was widespread fuel contamination due to bulldust, rust particulates and water ingress into old bowser tanks in monsoon areas. The factory filter couldn't deal with it, when the first ones came out on the 1KD it was supposed to be "inspected" every 12 months which they didn't do, and never changed which is insane. Then they altered the service interval to replacement every 40,000km. Which is still insane. In NZ I see the interval is now 30,000km or when the light comes on cos its detected water by which time it could be too late. I changed by pre-filter every 20,000 and the factory filter every 10,000km.

The holed pistons problem is usually caused by an irregular injector spray pattern and dripping, which in turn is caused by damage to the injector nozzle from water or other contaminents. Cockies and forestry guys that refuel a lot from jerry cans and old tanks on the farm are particularly at risk. I always advise additional fuel filtration on these vehicles. Mine looks like this:

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Yeah. Mine had an additional filter in from new. I installed that when I bought it, after reading of the fuel related issues in the earlier 1kd's on Aussie forums. Both filters where changed every 10,000km, I insisted on it.

Incidentally I did notice the engine was more rattly than normal that morning, approx 450kms into a tank of diesel I had bought from a small town garage the day before. But it wasn't until after the event that I clicked.

My water in filter light never came on in the time I owned the truck.

The CRD motors is one of the reasons why I went back to a 100 series Landcruiser. The risks associated with dirty fuel are less, to a degree. Although good 100's are getting harder and harder to find, so I may have to accept the risk when I buy my next and go for a 200. Unless a low km tidy 100 pops up of course.

Anyways, going off track to the OP a bit. Sorry.

Mine has two filters also.
She’s a worry...

Good points in that post. Quite like the agricultural flavour of my 92 80nseries, has had a bit of work on turbo, exhaust, injectors to make it a bit morr fun though...