Does anybody know whats happening with FL's at the moment? I know its lockdown but it would be nice to get some info on when the processing of them is gonna restart...
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Does anybody know whats happening with FL's at the moment? I know its lockdown but it would be nice to get some info on when the processing of them is gonna restart...
Is it renewal or new application?
If it’s a renewal I saw this which is saying expired licenses are being extended 4 months
https://www.fairandreasonable.co.nz/...ence_extension
New application, was due to come in about 10 days after lockdown started.
There is a couple of threads here on new licencing and renewal..
I have been waiting 7 months now. Im going to give them a couple of weeks in level 2 and then start making some noises.
A lot of guys in the same boat.
Just read this off the nz police site.
Deferral of first time licence and endorsement applications, and the firearms safety programme for first time applicants.
I have been waiting 9 months now.
When I rang up my AO , which was when the virus first hit. He said all the firearms teams have been sent elsewhere in the police forces to help with the covid issue.
Im sure my licence was JUST about to be processed too which is the kicker. The police have now said they are concentrating on renewal of existing firearms licences before they get too the new applicants.
I guess it will be here soon :( Like I said , im going to give them a couple of weeks and start making noises.
thats ridiculous !
a few years back i introduce my chinese workmate to shooting, he was so enthralled he actually did his license test 100k away just to get it quicker. by that stage he had a 22 and a 20gu on hold at the shop. i dont think the ink was dry on his licence before he collected them.
Thats just bullshit, they have non warranted cops doing the relicensing so no they are not being used else where, its a fob off.
Just picked my rifle up. The shop owner only had to ring the FAO to check.
Went into process my renweal today and was told there's at least a 3mth backlog. And it could take as long as 6mths.
I put a polite enquiry into the general police website today to ask what was happening after submitting my application for as a first time applicant on March 10th. I accepted the deferment, I just wanted to know when it was deferred till. This thread is officially depressing.
Had an interview for an endorsement at the weekend, must be starting up the process up again.
Fire arms licence arrived today after a 7 month wait. Super stoked its finally arrived.
Went out with my brother in law and shot alot ducks tonight between the three of us.
I am a happy chappy tonight !
update- after the admin person had forwarded to the local arms clerk this is the reply:
"Thank you for your query.
Unfortunately we have a vast backlog of licensing files to complete due to the lockdown. Police National Headquarters have advised that new applications are still not to be processed until the backlog is cleared. We are unable to give you a time frame of this at present.
Please refer to the news and updates on the Police website: https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-services/firearms-and-safety/news-and-updates"
so yeah. Not holding my breath on it being any time even vaguely soon.
Well thank f@#k mine doesn't expire until 2023 and they have hopefully caught up by then.
You can follow this website : www.firearmsafety.org.nz, if you want to know when to start processing new applications.
I cant believe you have waited to now. Why did it take so long to get your interviews done? so you put in your application in october november? i would be going to your local mp and asking why?
More reason to remove Police from the adminstration of the FAL system.
They're dragging their feet to try and make a point. What other licence system is so slow and poorly run?
So easiest way to solve the issue is remove them from the system.
Police are there to uphold the laws, not make them or administer any regulatory system
I think by and large that those responsible for the licensing system are doing the best they can with the limited resources available to them. There's a lot more to issuing a firearms licence than a driver's licence or passport. Referee face to face interviews, security check, travel costs etc. If you change your address then someone is sent out to check your security at no charge to the licence holder. Someone has to be paid for doing that plus vehicle running costs and administration costs.
If the licence fee was to be doubled, as an example, then no doubt more people could be employed to help speed up the process. At present, $126.50 for a ten year standard A- cat licence is pretty damn cheap at $12.65 a year or under .25c per week.
I just had a call from one of my referees (for renewal)... The FAO did a phone interview with her back in late January and today have repeated the interview face to face. Same questions, same answers. The assessor said it was something to do with new regs; and was very pissed off. I'd say it was because it had been a phone rather than personal interview. Weird thing is that they did a personal interview for my next of kin in Wellington and a phone interview for the local one!
Don't know how true that is. I was told some time back that it costs the police nearly $400 to process a standard firearms licence. We pay $126.50 now and it's been that way since GST was increased quite a few years back. If licensing was to be done by a private enterprise then you can guarantee it will cost us at the very least double what we pay now. Many may be willing to pay that and surely many would not and they then may just use a firearm illegally. Obviously, the more licence holders there are the better it is for all of us.
Also, I'm sure there are thousands of firearms licences that are processed as quickly as they can be and you never hear about it. We tend to hear about the ones which aren't because that's the nature of the internet and fair enough too.
bro in law did all his stuff and the test just before lockdown.
No contact has been made to his referees/spouse for the interviews and safe inspection yet. Doesn't look like it will be for a while now.
Maybe that is true but in the last 3 years I have-
Waited since Dec 2019 for an endorsement applic to be processed - still waiting
Had wrong info on which B-cats I hold EVERY inspection
Been called by some popo fuckwit asking if I had handed in my AR's in the confiscation - I said "What do your records show?" He said it must be a different department, I said there is only one department
-this after I had expressly gone to my local FO and got a printout to prove it
I now will no longer deal with the popo by phone as there is no record and they have consistently been spasmodic wankstains
I now have zero respect for the police and will offer them zero cooperation in all future dealings
Other people may well have great experiences with them
I was interveiwed yesterday as referee for a forum member (having to travel out of town for same at police insistence .I was asked about their health and the vettor was told the following "Icasnnot and will not make any factual statement as i do not and cannot access their private health information .Police do have powers under the privacy act to do so if they require .therefore this is opinion only.she wrote this down as she was unaware of this! the style of questioning -very leading -very enticing social worker style.her constant references to mental health started to piss me off a little so i bluntly informed her of my extensive career there and if i said i had no qualms she need go no further.
bizzarely this took place in a public carpark,as people walked by and to and from public toilets ,as a car bonnet seperated us!.
At the conclusion I told her i considered the form very poorly constructed,she admitted it was and apparently new ones are under construction.
Rather pointedly she asked re my heatlh -told her id suffered from depression but my GP was happy to sign me off as a reliable firearms owner (x2) which I found rather bizzare and in hindsight was none of her business as Im not the person under scrutiny for licence renewal.
The quality of vettor training IMO is not up to par.
this and other anecdotal ,plus written evidence suggests to me Police HQ are in a real post tarrant "we must not do that again/steel ourselves for a right arsekicking by the royal commision " mindset