Thread: Nazis successfully complete invasion 70 years later

To say there was no indoctrination, is stretching the truth a bit far, it occurred from the 1930s, until the hating of Jews, became the norm, so yes the whole country became nazi,s. Yet if not for the treaty of Versailles, hitler would never have come to power.
Yet the average soldier may not have been a rabid nazi, if he had been in the Africa corp, he may not have had a clue what was happening in the camps, he was fighting for his country or probably more for his esteemed leader Rommel. Why people would decide to hate another person to the point that they commit such atrocities we will never know.
Personally I collect knives, but for some reason can never bring myself to buy anything with a nazi emblem on it, and find it offensive when I see them for sale, yet have no problem with a Russian hammer and sickle, yet Stalin killed far more innocent people than hitler.
Alas we degrees from the original post.

Originally Posted by Taff

To say there was no indoctrination, is stretching the truth a bit far, it occurred from the 1930s, until the hating of Jews, became the norm, so yes the whole country became nazi,s. Yet if not for the treaty of Versailles, hitler would never have come to power.
Yet the average soldier may not have been a rabid nazi, if he had been in the Africa corp, he may not have had a clue what was happening in the camps, he was fighting for his country or probably more for his esteemed leader Rommel. Why people would decide to hate another person to the point that they commit such atrocities we will never know.
Personally I collect knives, but for some reason can never bring myself to buy anything with a nazi emblem on it, and find it offensive when I see them for sale, yet have no problem with a Russian hammer and sickle, yet Stalin killed far more innocent people than hitler.
Alas we degrees from the original post.

I am not stretching the truth. Seven years of parades and posters doesn't suddenly make mass murderers out of peaceful people. They had a deeply anti-Semitic culture, which the Nazis made government policy.

I have noticed people de-criminalising and inventing excuses for the Nazi in the last few years or so. There seems to be a new generation of young men growing up who dont want the Nazis to be bad guys. There is some kind of glamour there which they must still find attractive. Youtube is full of it.

And frankly, the men doing that re enacting in the article are the same. I saw the same crowd, at MOTAT once. They had all their Nazi army uniforms and some cars and so forth. There wasn't one of them under the age of forty and they were all running around breathing heavily pretending they were in a war and were 21 year old Nazi supermen. It was all vaguely embarassing and unsettling at the same time. Just don't. There has to be a better fantasy you can act out with your mates.

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

I am not stretching the truth. Seven years of parades and posters doesn't suddenly make mass murderers out of peaceful people. They had a deeply anti-Semitic culture, which the Nazis made government policy.

I have noticed people de-criminalising and inventing excuses for the Nazi in the last few years or so. There seems to be a new generation of young men growing up who dont want the Nazis to be bad guys. There is some kind of glamour there which they must still find attractive. Youtube is full of it.

And frankly, the men doing that re enacting in the article are the same. I saw the same crowd, at MOTAT once. They had all their Nazi army uniforms and some cars and so forth. There wasn't one of them under the age of forty and they were all running around breathing heavily pretending they were in a war and were 21 year old Nazi supermen. It was all vaguely embarassing and unsettling at the same time. Just don't. There has to be a better fantasy you can act out with your mates.

Nowhere have I attempted to excuse the nazi,s only point out some facts which the Majority of historians agree with, the problems in Germany started after WW1 with the reprimands demanded by the French , the Then German government blamed the bankers, unfairly , ( when did you last here of a politician/ leader owning up to there mistakes) who happened to have a number of Jews amongst them, so the indoctrination of the people did not start and end within seven yrs.

Originally Posted by Taff

Nowhere have I attempted to excuse the nazi,s only point out some facts which the Majority of historians agree with, the problems in Germany started after WW1 with the reprimands demanded by the French , the Then German government blamed the bankers, unfairly , ( when did you last here of a politician/ leader owning up to there mistakes) who happened to have a number of Jews amongst them, so the indoctrination of the people did not start and end within seven yrs.

Tapping into an inexhaustible vein of antisemitism of course, which well predated WW1. From "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" 1903 forgery to Martin Luther's inexcusable 1543 rant on "The Jews and Their Lies". The protocols are still circulated, many an anti-zionist have read them and feels himself well-informed...