Thread: Shooting rules for near a public road

Originally Posted by Jexla

Non gun users don't care what you're doing with a gun. They're just assume you want to hurt someone.


Savage I would love to agree with you, but again, if someone calls saying there's a gun going off and them and their children are scared or annoyed or whatever, the police have no choice but to have an armed response, as you have to treat all firearms related incidents seriously, correct or not?

Not all 'non-gun users' assume people with guns want to hurt someone. Stop with the broad sweeping statements that are completely unfounded, it's just your paranoid opinion.

No it doesn't always trigger an armed response, the circumstances around it are looked into. The AOS isn't mobilised to every incident involving a firearm and general duties only arm themselves when they believe there is a threat to them or others. So no, you are not correct.

Most of these kinds of jobs are fixed with a simple phone call or two.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Not all 'non-gun users' assume people with guns want to hurt someone. Stop with the broad sweeping statements that are completely unfounded, it's just your paranoid opinion.

No it doesn't always trigger an armed response, the circumstances around it are looked into. The AOS isn't mobilised to every incident involving a firearm and general duties only arm themselves when they believe there is a threat to them or others. So no, you are not correct.

Most of these kinds of jobs are fixed with a simple phone call or two.

Never said anything about AOS.
Sorry Savage, but we've all seen on TV even, that the police go to their meeting point and grab their guns to anything firearm related.
One example I remember, they were going to see some guy who got into some altercation with his family and reportedly owned an airsoft gun.
They armed up turned up and the guy was as calm as could be and they wanted to know where his airsoft gun was, which was sitting away in his car.
This is just one example I can think of.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Never said anything about AOS.
Sorry Savage, but we've all seen on TV even, that the police go to their meeting point and grab their guns to anything firearm related.
One example I remember, they were going to see some guy who got into some altercation with his family and reportedly owned an airsoft gun.
They armed up turned up and the guy was as calm as could be and they wanted to know where his airsoft gun was, which was sitting away in his car.
This is just one example I can think of.

Your rebuttal begins with "we've all seen on TV"?
You're really going to roll with that?

Originally Posted by Jexla

Never said anything about AOS.
Sorry Savage, but we've all seen on TV even, that the police go to their meeting point and grab their guns to anything firearm related.
One example I remember, they were going to see some guy who got into some altercation with his family and reportedly owned an airsoft gun.
They armed up turned up and the guy was as calm as could be and they wanted to know where his airsoft gun was, which was sitting away in his car.
This is just one example I can think of.

Have you ever thought that maybe the TV only shows jobs that may be interesting to watch, they certainly don't show jobs that aren't attended. AOS or not, not all firearms jobs are attended, the ones that are attended aren't always attended armed, it all depends on the circumstances. Sorry but TV shows on NZ Police do not give you a complete insight into the running of the organisation.

I've had the 'airsoft' situation many times before, it comes in as "he has a pistol/gun but i think its an air pistol/rifle". Would you take the risk? What harm is done by putting a glock on your hip? I want to go home after every shift and see my wife and two kids, that's more important to me than hurting someones feelings or intimidating somebody by arming up. Domestics are very unpredictable, hindsight is always 20/20 but you'd be surprised at how little or inaccurate the information is that we receive before arriving at a job, but that's the nature of the job.