Thread: Breeding and its finer points

Breeders will breed as close or outcross as much as they want... arguing about it on a forum will change no ones mind... show which methodology your support by buying a pup.

Originally Posted by cmore

It would also depend on said dogs breeding. Its like golf, play the course our on.
Why are you asking anyways? Are you planning on bringing your import in pregnant?

Hey Cmore. no just knowledge up abit as i really know bugger all

Originally Posted by Ruff

Breeders will breed as close or outcross as much as they want... arguing about it on a forum will change no ones mind... show which methodology your support by buying a pup.

arguing about it?? Ruff its a post to gain opinions nothing more

Originally Posted by el borracho

arguing about it?? Ruff its a post to gain opinions nothing more

How people breed is not something I think should not be digested in public... some will choose directions others will vehemently disagree with... results and the length of results of generations will prove who is right and wrong and discussions on forums will do nothing to provide better gundogs for hunters... that's my goal.. what's yours?

[QUOTE=el borracho;83969]do you think Leons choices were always correct Zharn - he changes his program I believe after Tweed -correct if I am wrong[/

I dont think Leon would have made a decision to breed from a dog if he didnt think it was the rite thing to do

Im pretty sure he decided not to carry on with the Tweed type as it was a hobbit -a great hobbit mind you

Originally Posted by Ruff

How people breed is not something I think should not be digested in public... some will choose directions others will vehemently disagree with... results and the length of results of generations will prove who is right and wrong and discussions on forums will do nothing to provide better gundogs for hunters... that's my goal.. what's yours?

knowledge

It's a pretty broad question, what exactly are you asking?

Animal husbandry, genetics, selection criteria, kennel management?

the lot Pointer --a discussion about it all. plenty like me that would appreciate your thoughts

Originally Posted by el borracho

Im pretty sure he decided not to carry on with the Tweed type as it was a hobbit -a great hobbit mind you

This backs up what i posted earlier

Originally Posted by Tussock

NZ is completely different to England, the US etc. We should have produced NZ specific breeds a long time ago.

Where do you think they got all the current breeds from? Cross breeding.

I agree Tussock.
There is a few 'known' breeds or rather types when it comes to pig dogs.

My breeding program goes something like trying to keep the dirty little foxy away from the bitches, but that is a mission! Still he's a bloody good wee hunter so I don't mind so much However I'm liking the first cross foxy/springers, there with be a litter of Lurchers taken out of the whippet bitch when she is next on heat. The choice is simple enough, got a good dog lined up for her. Cross good with good and you are a large way there.

Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

This backs up what i posted earlier

but he did and he then changed so that assumption is incorrect Zharn .The fact he decided to go for dogs with a little more height shows his breeding opinion changed in this area even though he had been using smaller mating partners -its not that it was wrong but seen as less desirable for the breed for the future possibly

My thoughts for this particular thread was really aimed at how to breed and why you would pick dog A over Dog B -how closely related they should or shouldn't be -Ruff answered that with no closer than the Grandparents but do others do it differently ?? Im looking to get insight here for others and myself to consider for future breeding

Originally Posted by el borracho

I would breed from a dog any day if it was a winner--why wouldn't you?

Sometimes Brian I dont think u remember what u post

Tweed was a winning dog yet Leon chose not to carry on breeding from her because of her size, FFS you even posted about it ,yet you still dont see my point

Why would you not keep going for out crosses, at least as far as you can? Plenty of good dogs out there that can bring a different dimension to a line.