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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnwolf View Post
    Need advice chaps!
    My cage trap isn’t inviting enough for Mr Rat, my usual bait of sultanas didn’t entice him, same when I smeared the sultanas in peanut butter, then I added a bit of Chesdale cheese and still no rat.
    I even left a sultana and bits of cheese on the ground outside the trap and they were left untouched.

    Mr Rat has been dining on what appears to be pitasporum ‘fruits’ right by the trap and leaving the husks (and poos!) scattered around right by the trap.

    Any other baits that might entice Mr Rat into the trap?
    Maybe its not possible but I would try to remove as much of rats food source as possible.

    Cage trap as in live capture cage trap ? If it is, have you covered the floor of the trap with what is around on the ground so rat doesnt feel steel under foot ? is a single rat heavy enough to trip the trap when it stands on the treadle ? The other day we caught 2 rats in a live capture cage trap and I suspect a single rat may not of been heavy enough to trip the trap ?? ...

    I would also try a wooden tunnel box with a Victor or Knees trap inside it just to mix it up a bit and keep mate rat guessing...

    Good fun trying to catch an educated rat .
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    Quote Originally Posted by sore head stoat View Post
    Maybe its not possible but I would try to remove as much of rats food source as possible.

    Cage trap as in live capture cage trap ? If it is, have you covered the floor of the trap with what is around on the ground so rat doesnt feel steel under foot ? is a single rat heavy enough to trip the trap when it stands on the treadle ? The other day we caught 2 rats in a live capture cage trap and I suspect a single rat may not of been heavy enough to trip the trap ?? ...

    I would also try a wooden tunnel box with a Victor or Knees trap inside it just to mix it up a bit and keep mate rat guessing...

    Good fun trying to catch an educated rat .
    remove all food source so your bait prefeed is only food available - wrap that pittosperum with steel or alloy band if you can - forget ya sultanas and chesdale and stay with peanut butter - but a little bit at first - increase when being hit - but gloves big one - and put pree feed traps etc in quiet area away from open areas- even cover trap if you can - lull Mr. rat into sense of security and hair trigger your trap - rats are light so make sure slight touch sets trap off - play with the settings and use a small file to sharpen the edges so it is a very very light set
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    Lots of good advice @Finnwolf – but its hard to compete with natural fruits if they are into it
    Some of my best producing sites have been using some kind of ramp – local branches off the Pittosporum, a piece of 100*50 or even a stay on a strainer post – they seem to be suckers to climb a ramp. Put a couple of traps up the ramps to make it interesting – possum paste or peanut butter are lethal. That black rat was still alive and had been eating one of his mates I got the previous day – an old carcass makes great lure.
    I filthy dirty cage seems to work better than a clean and shiny one – even old rats can be stupid.

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    Thanks for all the advice guys!

    My trap is a steel one with a spring loaded door that is released when Mr Rat pulls at the bait, it has seen the demise of many rats using sultanas as bait, sometimes smeared with peanut butter as an added attraction.

    Isolating the pitasporum is not an option - to many access ways ie jumping from neighboring hedge, off garage roof, of neighboring tree.

    I’ll persevere in the meantime but may try other baits.
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    We use a lot of the at220s at work. This was underneath an at220 that had been out for around two weeks. There were 17 possums. Some had rolled away from underneath the trap. They do work well.

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    Persistence paid off!

    Mr Rat fell for my peanut butter on sultana bait last night!

    Now to give it the BB gun treatment and add it to the ‘rat garden’
    ‘Many of my bullets have died in vain’

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    How to refurbish an A24 counter DIY - if you have been using the Goodnature A24 traps for a while – you may have a variety of views about their operation and the results that you have achieved.
    I have been using them for close to ten years and I have a group of eleven with trip-counters in the Quarry Park for 6.5 years. The trip counters are starting to fail – either no light showing or a “Lo” warning light showing.
    I considered buying new counters from GN – but at $55 – I hesitated. The GN website says they are not able to be repaired – but I figured there was a battery in there somewhere and it might be possible to get it out – actually, quite easy with a small screwdriver in one of three slots at the end of the counter. New batteries are about $14 for two at the supermarket. It’s easy to reassemble. A smear of silicone grease around the O ring helps the battery to go in easy. Bingo – you have a refurbished trip counter.
    The slip ring that holds our trip counters on the gas bottles have been eaten by rats – but most are still usable. Some of the counters have recorded up to 20 strikes but now rat numbers are low the number recorded is usually less than 10 in the six-month period before a gas bottle change. We rarely see any dead bodies, so the counter is important. I put one out on the end of a track right where it dropped into a rocky gorge, a couple of weeks ago –– I checked it after about ten days and found a fresh dead rat and one strike on the counter – so they do work!

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