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    Moa- the Stag Culture is solid down under and thats taking some effort to ackowledge this fact, without acknowledgment then they are none the wiser to the detrimental issues cause by just head hunting and particularly the amount of hunters down under outweighs the 'back log' of breeding stock thats pushing through, combined this with not only spotlighting, now thermalling in high country and " the great deer cull" , it really is a 10 year project for Hunters to do "right" by the herd as of yesterday, but with current mentalitys its only going to cause more issues or potentially to a point where the stag or deeer 'dry up' to the point it is no longer fun an worth it to drive around the high country in hopes of killen stags, or it isnt now worth walking 10k out ridges to thermal a heavily hammered herd by Fire an Cull.... then this period gives the deer a chance, less hunters less pressure and parks vic think they got them all...... hunters now genuinely interested dont shoot Spikes. Dont shoot little Stags. shoot does for meat but dont blow em away, which prior to the fires i was advocating to BLOW DOES to save the herd..... well the fire "saved" the herd, an then the Culls are happening. long story there.

    HOW DO YA STOP aussies and Thermals..... whos policing it? is it a FWF "code of cunduct in the name of fair chase" that prior to leaving the Take off area a FWF "official goes through peoples Gear? honesty system doesnt work lol. event the biggest name blokes in AU , use thermals but wont publically mention it... why would they for Waps..even bigger prize.

    PRIOR to the roar.... fuuuck, how do ya stop that? stop it for one , stop it for all?... descrimination between a new zealander and an australian , that could get messy...

    FWF promote more Social Media posts to educate the younger or internationals on how much work an ephasis goes into the bulls for the bugle and emphasis how this practise of pre roar strippers is detrimental to the hard work of 20 years FWF etc.... its all good an well on a podcast hidden in a facebook page, but everyones on social media, alot of people type this into youtube "fiordland wapiti hunting" use these tags to express Videos that educate the cunts on whats goin on inside firodland an that it isnt a wild aussie sambar cull.... theres a very specific situation goin on here. have the big wigs express this, Gibson, Duley, Red stag timber gang, get Howie on board, Cam Speedy needs his own PR dude to just have him talk the shit and not have to personally preech it across the internet, someone else should be doin that inside of Sika foundation to get word out. whats to lose? lots to gain.

    oh fuck, where do ya start....
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    to touch on the stag culture here, its not velvet stags like you blokes, its just hard antler.. kill em.

    velvet killin of stags is hugely detrimental to a herd, look at the southern alps an you will note. its been 1960s since You guys have seen more than a odd beast here or there... looking back there was a bloody lotta deer but wayyy to many hinds, an still to this day "hind get left" an "velvet stags get smoked" ... ooo k.


    i wanted to touch on something elseeee but i forgot... "heavy fines" for hunting in areas 'closed' , close the fiordland hunting area jan feb?
    here no penalty for poaching , an when caught often easy easy enough to geto ff with a play dumb card.. no deterrance.

    OR on the other side of the arguement, theres an aussie fella bangin on about the future of the thermals and how bad it is to fair chase hunting, calling it day light spotlighting.., i get this 100% , but its 2020, the tehcnology is over taking the oppertunities as they arnt expanding... its interesting... So do ya call Thermals fair game? everyone can have one , if ya can afford it.. if ya can afford it, well , we've seen the calibre of stags in NZ "if ya can afford" it, so what the difference? kettle of fish that one..


    Yeah so i rememebered, this coming few years is going to be a huge eye opener for aussies with the fire n cull situations, goin forward if there is much oppertunity left

    Your nz herds seen a smashing back then an its never been the same since, except fiordland getting there but as mentioned, alot of sweet bulls must be gettin killed an not heard about... thats been goin on since the 50s
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear View Post
    Its not just the wap blocks we should be worried about, As i said i think there needs to be a new game animal foundation set up. The permit money goes them and they run the whole permit system on all doc land and manage all game animals. All 1080 programs and culls will need to go through the foundation with 18month notice just stay
    The only thing i will say is once NZers start paying is the price will only keep going up. It might start at stay $100 season license for 12months but next minute it will be a $1000 and it will become a rich mans sport
    Just my thoughts
    yeah man i can see that happening here. we have a good area to a fiord block type permit, as u guys do in alps i guess, but have it for a little fee to go toward things, an make the period 3 month or whatever, maybe one so a more up to date idea of whats in there an who, but not a booking system per say, lots to learn from a block type approach to "limited entry hunting" you could call the national park from here on in... but now the prize is gone theres no real Special about it. unlike ya Waps in Fiord.

    Same thing with Aus that $50 last few years, now with COVID the "GMA" / not foundation, govt run lollipop authority over deer huntin/ are issuing FREE hunting next year right.... right after fires, culls an all this... i bet you, i will put money on a over haul now hunting is restricted here, that it becomes a Pay for it, an pay more for it for "old historic areas" which rigns true to ya Wanaka ballot.... o much to learn from NZ with AU but au wants no bar of a introduced GAME animal or managing them....

    its fucked.
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    Also if a game animal foundation was set up once it had any surplus money it could used to educate hunters on game management also used on these back country huts that a slowly getting pulled out cause they aren't on a great walk.

    Unfortunately am not the person to take this further

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    Does anyone know if that wombat Greentree ever made a donation back to the rescue helicopter after it pulled him out of the hills TWICE in New Zealand? He sure seemed to get a lot of miles out of promoting the fact he's a dumbass whilst professing to be the opposite for Instagram likes
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    #375GANG....

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    i cant speak for the fella in question but you're not assuming all Aussies are of that Calibre, are ya?
    theres a young one who is basically a shadow of the man in question, he been caught once, i thnk he hunted with the fella from the Timber stag club (curley fella) on a swap hunt sika for sambar, they are the ones who will get ya waps in feb with the thermals..

    Cos instagram selfies are worth so much these days, ya know..

    that selfie proclaims the pinnicle of the great southern trophies, dont mind how it succumbed to the shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear View Post
    Also if a game animal foundation was set up once it had any surplus money it could used to educate hunters on game management also used on these back country huts that a slowly getting pulled out cause they aren't on a great walk.

    Unfortunately am not the person to take this further
    much like here if there is no hut, there is no want to go there.
    no hutters, no hunters.
    im fairly sure DoC dont give a fuck abotu your hunting recreations either

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    As an Australian that drew first period last year and got the call not to come the day before we were due to fly out, we pay $130 to enter the ballot and $500 to accept the block.
    Roughly five times the amount New Zealanders pay if the amounts haven't changed.
    I didn't enter this year as I don't think we will be allowed over there for quite some time.
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