Thread: Hunter shot in Kaimai Range near Te Aroha

I believe this particular instance was a case of mis-identification of target and the poor bugger was indeed shot by another member of his hunting party.

RIP

Originally Posted by GWH

I believe this particular instance was a case of mis-identification of target and the poor bugger was indeed shot by another member of his hunting party.

RIP

Why do people bother meat hunting at the busiest most dangerous time of the year? misidentification shootings would be eliminated in the roar if people hunting in april were only looking for trophy stags. Fill ya freezer up spring/summer. Iv never heard of a mistaken id shooting where the victim was mistaken for a “12pt stag with great length and strong tines” its 100% always just “thought he was a deer”

Originally Posted by savage270

Why do people bother meat hunting at the busiest most dangerous time of the year? misidentification shootings would be eliminated in the roar if people hunting in april were only looking for trophy stags. Fill ya freezer up spring/summer. Iv never heard of a mistaken id shooting where the victim was mistaken for a “12pt stag with great length and strong tines” its 100% always just “thought he was a deer”

And maybe that's the answer right there. Make it illegal to shoot anything but an antlered deer between mid of March to middle of may (or whatever). A bit like the tag system in the US. But only applies to the rut period here.

It could make people more consious of what it is that they are shooting at.

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Now we’re thinking out of the box. Not sure how we’d implement that one but it’s the sort of idea we need

Originally Posted by GWH

And maybe that's the answer right there. Make it illegal to shoot anything but an antlered deer between mid of March to middle of may (or whatever). A bit like the tag system in the US. But only applies to the rut period here.

It could make people more consious of what it is that they are shooting at.

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This is starting to sound like the answers we are getting to the road toll. Instead of looking at the real problem of NOT identifying your target. We could go one step further and ban bush hunting during the roar but if I remember rightly a few have been shot sitting out in the open.

Originally Posted by tetawa

This is starting to sound like the answers we are getting to the road toll. Instead of looking at the real problem of NOT identifying your target. We could go one step further and ban bush hunting during the roar but if I remember rightly a few have been shot sitting out in the open.

Alot of the blokes pulling the trigger swear they ARE identifying their target tho, the theory is peoples brains are telling them it is a “deer”
Having to identify the type of deer and how good its rack is would surely eliminate this. Anyone who does enough hunting at some stage will know the feeling of thinking something is a deer that turns out is not, you cant eliminate that but you can stop people pulling the trigger on it, worded poorly but you get the idea

Originally Posted by savage270

Alot of the blokes pulling the trigger swear they ARE identifying their target tho, the theory is peoples brains are telling them it is a “deer”
Having to identify the type of deer and how good its rack is would surely eliminate this. Anyone who does enough hunting at some stage will know the feeling of thinking something is a deer that turns out is not, you cant eliminate that but you can stop people pulling the trigger on it, worded poorly but you get the idea

Yea but of course they're going to say that. There's no ifs or buts about it they know they're talking out their ass and trying to make themselves feel better

Quote....Imo there is a huge difference in how human factors affect aviation and hunting. Apart from maybe some visual references they should not be compared.

As you say,”IMO”.....let me know when you want to have that conversation,it’s all about “decision making”...explain to me where these two differ,as with many others vocations,....there is a plethora of information and studies that say otherwise.......kinda surprised you said that

Originally Posted by GWH

And maybe that's the answer right there. Make it illegal to shoot anything but an antlered deer between mid of March to middle of may (or whatever).

I suggested this a couple years ago on here but got shot down (excuse the pun)

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....41/#post456336

Originally Posted by savage270

Why do people bother meat hunting at the busiest most dangerous time of the year? misidentification shootings would be eliminated in the roar if people hunting in april were only looking for trophy stags. Fill ya freezer up spring/summer. Iv never heard of a mistaken id shooting where the victim was mistaken for a “12pt stag with great length and strong tines” its 100% always just “thought he was a deer”

Perhaps in part, it's because NZ was know internationally as a sparsely populated, bush rich country with deer behind every tree. A 303 to be bought at every country servo and to hunt, our god given right. Sounds plausible until about 35 years ago, when successive governments allowed immigration, foreign land sales and forests' to be sold off. All this in turn, has led to an over exuberance of 'hunters', vehicles and limited huntable land for the masses. This is my take, but I've been wrong before...