Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

I've just had a reporter from Stuff on the phone, apparently this is getting more coverage than just the website.

If anyone wants to talk with him PM me and I'll send your phone number.

Also, the titles are in hand and the trust doesn't own the road - but I'm still waiting on the Maori Land Court to get back to me.

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

I've just had a reporter from Stuff on the phone, apparently this is getting more coverage than just the website.

If anyone wants to talk with him PM me and I'll send your phone number.

Also, the titles are in hand and the trust doesn't own the road - but I'm still waiting on the Maori Land Court to get back to me.

Somebody from FMC or NZDA should be fronting this. Its a bloody public access issue, its not just of interest to a hunting and shooting forum.

A big thanks to everyone who working behind the scenes on this one it way out my depth on what to do

That is being done by both as we speak....

Originally Posted by XR500

Somebody from FMC or NZDA should be fronting this. Its a bloody public access issue, its not just of interest to a hunting and shooting forum.

As mentioned earlier I have contacted FMC and Megan is going to have a quiet chat to a local Kaumatua first off. Below is a piece from her email to me.

"Happy for you to share that FMC are looking at it and provide my email address so people can contact me if they would like to contribute information."

megan.dimozantos@fmc.org.nz

She also mentioned that she has been in touch with the Sika foundation and Cam Speedy and Mike Main are also working on this.

I've had nil response so far from the MP for Taupo.

I got an email saying she was going to talk to Helisika and the trust, and silence thereafter.

I think there will be some scurrying happening currently.

I came across records of an easement on the title to Genesis and it's successors, I assume it's for access to the hydro sites, but that doesn't automatically mean access for everyone.

All information gathered so far ie: Title, deposited drawings, Gazette notices etc need further consideration as the nomenclature is from a by gone age to my mind. I will pass these documents on to people with the appropriate qualifications and experience. On that note, is there a registered surveyor on this forum who could clarify the information contained in the drawings?

Genesis have been pretty good so i imagine that access down Rangipo Intake Rd will be left as is.Helesika and DOC have got some shady stuff going on as regards Waipakihi Rd.

I was recently told by Mark , Taupo NZDA President that the trust had informed him that the road was Maori Land and therefore he was not concerned.
That may have changed :-) .
Others locally have done their homework and are convinced it is Public.
They have been stirring the Council and other parties about it.
There is also an article in the the BFD complete with maps which support the Public Road status.
The problem is to motivate the relevant agencies to enforce that access.
Pennyless

Originally Posted by pennyless

I was recently told by Mark , Taupo NZDA President that the trust had informed him that the road was Maori Land and therefore he was not concerned.
That may have changed :-) .
Others locally have done their homework and are convinced it is Public.
They have been stirring the Council and other parties about it.
There is also an article in the the BFD complete with maps which support the Public Road status.
The problem is to motivate the relevant agencies to enforce that access.
Pennyless

Thanks for that. have you got a link to the BFD article?? I have tried but failed to find it. Appears they don't have a search function

It wasn't an article as such, it was a Letter to the Editor.

https://thebfd.co.nz/2022/07/25/publ...-RUfN5_4zDTTII

I think it is important to understand that Waipakihi road is not necessarily a "PUBLIC" road as such. It is a road formed for public works. It is equally important to understand that it is not owned by Iwi. The two questions myself and others are endeavoring to clarify are -
- Do the public have a legal right to use as access.
- Do Iwi have the right to deny public access.

Clarification is needed and I have no doubt that it will be forthcoming.

Originally Posted by Dazzh

I think it is important to understand that Waipakihi road is not necessarily a "PUBLIC" road as such. It is a road formed for public works. It is equally important to understand that it is not owned by Iwi. The two questions myself and others are endeavoring to clarify are -
- Do the public have a legal right to use as access.
- Do Iwi have the right to deny public access.

Clarification is needed and I have no doubt that it will be forthcoming.

Roads are defined under the LGA and there is no ability to restrict legal access unless in specific circumstances which don’t apply here. Be interesting to see nzdas response.