Thread: Climate

Originally Posted by Lurch

can't fix the pothole or just don't?
If you don't understand the end you may not understand the means
Does the condition of the roads discourage you from travelling on them?
you know,from using your car?

The deal about maid is the verbal consent.

No it's written informed consent

As much as it annoys a lot of people i find these type of threads facinating its interesting seeing all the different views. Im interested how some people arrive at their conclusions but its generally seen as an attack if you ask them..

Greetings,
I worked in Local Government for close to three decades and saw some pretty short sighted decisions, especially with underground assets which you can't see until the fail.
To recap the nay sayers are a lost cause and Governments are unlikely to act fast or effectively enough so what are we left with. To me the answer is to build resilience into our daily lives. Vegetable gardening has been mentioned and is something I am trying to get back into. Most of us have enough ground for a small garden. Being a little less reliant on the National Grid is another. This is work in progress currently. Downsizing vehicles as they are replaced to what we need rather than what we would like and cutting down on vehicle dead running (unnecessary trips) is another. Our firewood comes from trees I planted for that purpose years ago so cartage is minimal. Any other ideas.
Regards Grandpamac.

You have covered the basics well GPM.
My son lives in Berlin. Everyone lives in apartments. A lot of people grow tiny little gardens in windowsill boxes, to vary up their salads. So people here saying they don't have enough room to grow stuff....

Owning stuff that can be fixed by yourself (or look up on YT!!!) is kind of useful. Means you don't have to sign up to the throw away culture.

A good review of your living situation can be useful: Power goes off. Can you still get water? Flush the loo?? Cook?? Heat the house???

The bridge goes out. How long can you last at home till you need food/fuel??

This, and many other potentials for failures is why I believe we need REAL teachers in schools. Cloning NIMROD anyone???

Originally Posted by XR500

You have covered the basics well GPM.
My son lives in Berlin. Everyone lives in apartments. A lot of people grow tiny little gardens in windowsill boxes, to vary up their salads. So people here saying they don't have enough room to grow stuff....

Owning stuff that can be fixed by yourself (or look up on YT!!!) is kind of useful. Means you don't have to sign up to the throw away culture.

A good review of your living situation can be useful: Power goes off. Can you still get water? Flush the loo?? Cook?? Heat the house???

The bridge goes out. How long can you last at home till you need food/fuel??

This, and many other potentials for failures is why I believe we need REAL teachers in schools. Cloning NIMROD anyone???

Greetings @XR500,
The greatest mistake made by first time vegetable gardeners is to dig up a large area (usually in Spring) and plant the whole lot in one go. As long as they have not lost interest by Christmas this will result in a massive oversupply in late Summer, early Autumn of short life vegetables just when they are cheap. My late father was an avid vegetable gardener right up until his death. At that time he had a tiny garden barely more than 5m2. From this he provided most of his vegetables and still managed to place surplus outside the gate to his flat on Tuesdays for distribution by the ladies in the other flats.
I am somewhat between vegetable gardens currently. I have found the weeding and other work in my old garden difficult so am changing to a strip garden. The strips are 700mm wide with 500mm between cut into an existing lawn. I can mow between the strips and weeding is much easier. Currently we have carrots, bok choy, silver beet and shortly snow peas. There is space for spring plantings and more beds this season.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @XR500,
The greatest mistake made by first time vegetable gardeners is to dig up a large area (usually in Spring) and plant the whole lot in one go. As long as they have not lost interest by Christmas this will result in a massive oversupply in late Summer, early Autumn of short life vegetables just when they are cheap. My late father was an avid vegetable gardener right up until his death. At that time he had a tiny garden barely more than 5m2. From this he provided most of his vegetables and still managed to place surplus outside the gate to his flat on Tuesdays for distribution by the ladies in the other flats.
I am somewhat between vegetable gardens currently. I have found the weeding and other work in my old garden difficult so am changing to a strip garden. The strips are 700mm wide with 500mm between cut into an existing lawn. I can mow between the strips and weeding is much easier. Currently we have carrots, bok choy, silver beet and shortly snow peas. There is space for spring plantings and more beds this season.
Regards Grandpamac.

One of the best town gardens I have seen was were the homeowner had vege beds right along the inside fences with stawberries covered with a net hanging down from the fence and frost tender stuff safe under frost cloth hung off the fence as well and then in the lawn two offset oval vege gardens filled with all manner of broadbeans, coloured silverbeet, colrabi and other interesting and attractive stuff so that it looked like flower gardens

Also, I am unfamiliar with the term lucsh, @Lurch can you please explain what it means.

@Lurch, I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent and educated person. I read the labels on the food I buy, I have a good relationship with my doctor who has actually taken the time to explain to me how vaccines have been made in the past and the how the mrna vaccine is manufactured. I believe that stem cell research has done a lot to advance modern medicine. So many of your assumptions you make in your recent rant are in fact wrong. I am a curious person by nature so took a few seconds to look up HEK296 and found this. I have not double checked the information on here but it seems plausible:
https://fullfact.org/online/HEK-293-cells/
It is interesting that those who wish to influence the thinking of others tend to only promote the part of the picture that will generate fear or revulsion. The original cells were harvested in 1973 according to this article, and then cloned. I wonder how the cell structure may have been altered in the 50 years since. My knowledge of microbiology is extremely limited, perhaps someone can enlighten me.

nah he cant @Andygr cause he is no longer able to post/rant/spout forth ....sad that folks can ...how did moa hunter put it so well a few posts back up page??? be so far down rabbit hole and only talking to other rabbits. wood for the trees and all that.
its funny/sad really you can point out that wearing blinkers when looking into stuff goes both ways.... but if someone is wearing blinkers they still keep looking in same places for answers.
I really hope that the people who are deep in the rabbit hole can wake up and come out in the sunshine again...life is too short as it is,without being scared all the time.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

nah he cant @Andygr cause he is no longer able to post/rant/spout forth ....sad that folks can ...how did moa hunter put it so well a few posts back up page??? be so far down rabbit hole and only talking to other rabbits. wood for the trees and all that.
its funny/sad really you can point out that wearing blinkers when looking into stuff goes both ways.... but if someone is wearing blinkers they still keep looking in same places for answers.
I really hope that the people who are deep in the rabbit hole can wake up and come out in the sunshine again...life is too short as it is,without being scared all the time.

It is a shame that we can no longer engage lurch in debate, as such a situation will only re-enforce any feelings of being controlled and censored he has and is the polar opposite of what is needed - hearing the other person and being able to debate a counter position

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

It is a shame that we can no longer engage lurch in debate, as such a situation will only re-enforce any feelings of being controlled and censored he has and is the polar opposite of what is needed - hearing the other person and being able to debate a counter position

the trouble is...in order to hear,you have to be willing to listen....as you said earlier,listening to other rabbits just makes you see hawks n foxes behind every cloud and tree....
sooner or later you have to be able to just let something go..... agree to disagree and move onwards.
when your mind is telling you there are bits of baby in your can of coca cola......its well past time to seek help

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

the trouble is...in order to hear,you have to be willing to listen....as you said earlier,listening to other rabbits just makes you see hawks n foxes behind every cloud and tree....
sooner or later you have to be able to just let something go..... agree to disagree and move onwards.
when your mind is telling you there are bits of baby in your can of coca cola......its well past time to seek help

I am willing to both hear and listen. I am not afraid that through someone espousing extreme ideas these ideas will infect my mind and I therefore need protecting

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I am willing to both hear and listen. I am not afraid that through someone espousing extreme ideas these ideas will infect my mind and I therefore need protecting

10000% correct.

The best cure for bad ideas is robust, open debate - not censorship.