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    That is a fair but somewhat moot point nowadays, as in a lot of vehicles you now cannot get anything other than a CVT auto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Jack View Post
    I have been convinced for years that Autos use more fuel hence why I still drive a manual
    Yes and yes maybe.
    Old autos were shit house to drive and shit house for economy.
    New autos have lots of gears and lock up in every gear and in theroy could be more efficient than a manual.
    However in theroy there is no difference between theroy and practice but in practice there is always difference to theroy
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    Petrol v diesel economy

    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Yes and yes maybe.
    Old autos were shit house to drive and shit house for economy.
    New autos have lots of gears and lock up in every gear and in theroy could be more efficient than a manual.
    However in theroy there is no difference between theroy and practice but in practice there is always difference to theroy
    Yeah, my 3.6l Outback with the lineartronic CVT, gets around 8 to 8.5l/100kms on the open road.
    Sits at around 1700rpm and just runs on the torque.

    Gets a bit thirsty around town (especially when enjoying the acceleration 221kws gives you)but combined I average around 10, really impressed with it for a bigger displacement engine.

    Must say too, the new generation of CVT are a MASSIVE improvement in the early ones with chains driving the coupling rather than a rubber belt.
    I was always wary of them after the early ones but this Subaru one is fantastic to drive and very reliable.



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    I've got two RAV4, one diesel one gas, 2014 diesel in NZ and a 2015 gas in Canada, same spec vehicle.
    average between 7.5-8L a 100km in the Diesel, down to 6l on the likes of the Canterbury Plaines.
    8.5-9l on the gas, per 100km best i can get on the flat Pairire is 7.8 ish.
    stop and go in town and traffic, the gas goes way up 13l or so, the diesel doesn't jump much. not seen it over 10l yet,
    Travel in NZ is steeper and more turns, than were I am in Canada.
    I recond its about 2.5 liters difference per hundred. given similar driving conditions, except round town,
    the gas is more responsive, better round town,
    I like the diesel more, as it holds speed much more readily on the open road,
    regular 87 grade gas in Canada $1.89, diesel is $2.03 last few days.
    Gas makes more sense here, and very few diesel SUV about,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudattack View Post
    Yeah, my 3.6l Outback with the lineartronic CVT, gets around 8 to 8.5l/100kms on the open road.
    Sits at around 1700rpm and just runs on the torque.

    Gets a bit thirsty around town (especially when enjoying the acceleration 221kws gives you)but combined I average around 10, really impressed with it for a bigger displacement engine.

    Must say too, the new generation of CVT are a MASSIVE improvement in the early ones with chains driving the coupling rather than a rubber belt.
    I was always wary of them after the early ones but this Subaru one is fantastic to drive and very reliable.



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