Thread: : Snipers vs. Competition Shooters

I've heard that he is bulking up for some MMA style fight in the upcoming redneck games

Originally Posted by ebf

I've heard that he is bulking up for some MMA style fight in the upcoming redneck games

I have been working on my mono ab lately.

Originally Posted by el borracho

I dont get ya Gimp -other than its way more pages than I want to read it is an analysis done for the Special operation unit and you think it shit --well Ok doesnt alter the original point though -snipers shoot less than target shooters ...well in the US and hence their ability shoot first round hit at distance are less than a well rehearsed target shooter --no hard to comprehend in my view

No the analysis literally has nothing to do with what you and your shit clickbait link think it does and you seem to be completely unable to read my posts pointing this out or, I dunno, the original source

Originally Posted by R93

Why did you post this thread El b? Honestly? What bearing has it got on anything?

I am sure most serving soldiers would acknowledge that on average and in a one off comp the seasoned target shooter would have it over the unit trained sniper 9/10 times on a gazetted range, shooting F class or the like.
Military marksmen don't shoot V bulls. They are silhouette or 3 dimensional shooters. 95% of their targets are moving or snap. Any LR targets are/should be well thought out and only taken when there is a high % chance of hit.

Get yourself a head-shaped target, not modeled off yours as that would just be cheating. Thats good R93 good humor bwwhhhaaaaaaaaaaa .Ssdly Im not shooting enough nowadays and would just fall into the lowly sniper ability according to the article


Draw a 100mm dia circle centred, from the tip of the nose.
Fix it to a long pole and get someone to operate it for you from the butts of an NRA range.
Set yourself up at 300. Get the target op to give you 5 x 3 sec exposures in the center of your lane over 5 minutes. Then 5 x 3 sec exposures any height and anywhere in your lane across a 6m frontage over 5 minutes.

This was considered to be a gift serial at the start of a badge shoot. You get 5 points in the circle or cutting the line, 3 points outside but on the target.
Target is to spin and fall when hit. Target is to be snapped into and out of position.
Worth 50 points.
No sighters allowed, just rock up and shoot. Just a wee taste of Military type shooting if you fancy yourself.

I would love to do all that shit -shame we dont have the facilities to do this stuff .
Now after all that back fanatical muslim back whipping and lamenting the original article was what it was -nothing more nothing less -a mans observation of a companies observation about a versus b -- 7pages of interest mmm not bad

Originally Posted by gimp

No the analysis literally has nothing to do with what you and your shit clickbait link think it does and you seem to be completely unable to read my posts pointing this out or, I dunno, the original source

prove me wrong with a cut and paste -more than willing to take it on the chin Gimp !!!

Originally Posted by el borracho

prove me wrong with a cut and paste -more than willing to take it on the chin Gimp !!!

Single syllables and no more than 50 words. No numbers bigger than 10.

Originally Posted by Wildman

Single syllables and no more than 50 words. No numbers bigger than 10.

youve read the whole article have you wildman or just stirred from mental hibernation to add a worthless pennys worth

Originally Posted by el borracho

I would love to do all that shit -shame we dont have the facilities to do this stuff

And I would hazard a guess 99% of civilian target shooters have not done any shooting of that nature either.

yep Id go along with that about the movers .Movers are the main problem as one needs either permission to walk in the butts which generally arnt to big so you need to shoot pretty quick or a chain driven mechanism which is a real enthusiast domain .

In saying that it is still just a mathematical shot depending on distance , wind and target movement speed .
Depending on distance many enthusiast could accomplish this I believe given the opportunity -its more a thing of distance I would think that would screw ones shot up with a longer distance wind call being that much harder .

Its all good fun though doing this stuff if you have a facility to have a go !

come on Wildman Im awaiting another penny's worth

Originally Posted by el borracho

yep Id go along with that about the movers .Movers are the main problem as one needs either permission to walk in the butts which generally arnt to big so you need to shoot pretty quick or a chain driven mechanism which is a real enthusiast domain .

In saying that it is still just a mathematical shot depending on distance , wind and target movement speed .
Depending on distance many enthusiast could accomplish this I believe given the opportunity -its more a thing of distance I would think that would screw ones shot up with a longer distance wind call being that much harder .

Its all good fun though doing this stuff if you have a facility to have a go !

Yup, I don't need it explained. I took that type of shooting for granted my whole career. But as easy as you think it would be to adopt for a civilian. Isn't it fair to assume the soldier, with the same time spent shooting v bulls could be as good as any target shooter?

Me thinks you guys are all nuts this is a very good read on the subject.

El B, has it ever occurred to you that you come across as a bit of a cunt?

Well this thread kindov deteriorated... i'll try a constructive comment.

In my opinion, precision shooting is something like 90% in your head, 5% physical and 5% the firearm.

In top level benchrest and F Class shooting the firearm accuracy comes into it more and the physical aspect reduces, but it is still mostly a mental challenge. In military style competitions the physical aspect is more promenent and the rifle accuracy less so. Kinda pointless trying to compare them, they are simply different.

Just about anyone (civie or military) who puts in the training, practice and mental energy into precision shooting could be as good as just about any competitive shooter in any competition (civie or military).

Originally Posted by R93

Yup, I don't need it explained. I took that type of shooting for granted my whole career. But as easy as you think it would be to adopt for a civilian. Isn't it fair to assume the soldier, with the same time spent shooting v bulls could be as good as any target shooter?

actually R93 I never did -As the original article eluded to "rifletime "was the key and it didnt compare any physical attributes -in fact reading pg 16 or point 5 i think said a prone rested position not under stress . Funny as hell as a few are showing fanatical attributes of some middle eastern people over this simple observation .