Thread: Could we do more

Originally Posted by 199p

I personally don't have an issue with police having a registration. I have an endorsed firearm as well as filling out mail order forms the police all ready know 3/4 of my safe.
how ever i think the budget for firearm registration is much better spent on front line police staff.

If they could solve more burglaries than I have no doubt it would have a big effect on black market firearms especially if there was larger penalties just look at that kid who stabbed the rugby player he had something like 15 burglary chargers and he was only 17.

I do agree that firearms should be stored at least in a safe and personally I would like to see it to the current E cat level.

I agree with all of this except making everyone have an e cat. For Those that are renting or move a lot it would be a pain in The arse.

Originally Posted by 223nut

I agree with all of this except making everyone have an e cat. For Those that are renting or move a lot it would be a pain in The arse.

That is a valid point. I do think the bar has to be raised with a lot of the converted locker safes that i personally know of 3 or 4 people using them.

I assume you all know that there is a register of all firearms sold from a dealer, new or S/H so I cannot understand what you are all complaining about, ok private sales are not recorded, but that maybe on the way, mainly due to gun owners selling or lending guns to people without licenses. It will take years for the records to catch up if ever.
As to recording your serial number for your own use, common sense really if you ever want to make a claim on your insurance.

Originally Posted by 223nut

I agree with all of this except making everyone have an e cat. For Those that are renting or move a lot it would be a pain in The arse.

I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I rent and have an endorsement, if you want to own these firearms, you need to be able to keep them secure. I believe this to be the case with all firearms too.

I think NZ's sentencing laws are a real factor here. These dickheads getting busted in a crack lab with a stolen sawnoff or revolver get concurrent sentences, which is a joke. Commit 5 or 10 offences in a spree : rob liquor store, with a shotgun, punch the poor shopkeeper, flee in stolen car, fail to stop, while possessing class A drugs, with no license, on bail = should equal serving 8 or more sentences end on end for all 8 or more offenses committed. The more the merrier, they don't give a shit if they get caught, the wet bus ticket comes out for the most serious offense they've been nabbed for, it doesn't affect them very much if they get caught for a whole raft load or just the most serious on its own. There is next to ZERO deterrent factor in NZ sentencing laws, and it's bullshit. We even have instances of judges refusing to apply strikes (3 strikes laws) to these cretins when it's THE FUCKING LAW. I say to the NZ government, start there and leave little old law-abiding me the fuck alone until you sort them out.