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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    This part of the new laws came into effect yesterday.

    General conditions of firearms licence
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    Every firearms licence is subject to the conditions that the holder of a firearms licence must,—
    (c)
    permit a member of the Police to inspect all firearms in the licence holder’s possession, the place or places where the firearms are or will be kept, and the place or places where the ammunition is or will be kept, and, for those purposes, to enter at all reasonable times upon the premises where that place or those places are situated; and
    "With seven days notice"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    This part of the new laws came into effect yesterday.

    General conditions of firearms licence
    (1)
    Every firearms licence is subject to the conditions that the holder of a firearms licence must,—
    (c)
    permit a member of the Police to inspect all firearms in the licence holder’s possession, the place or places where the firearms are or will be kept, and the place or places where the ammunition is or will be kept, and, for those purposes, to enter at all reasonable times upon the premises where that place or those places are situated; and
    Right you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by cambo View Post
    I think the vettor that came round home was a florist. She had absolutely zero knowledge of firearms or security.

    A separate lockable compartment is still legal, no matter what the vettors tell you.
    Also it you don't have to remove bolts as they say you do...unless you keep ammo locked up with the firearm (which they still refuse to accept even though its black and white in the Arm Regulations).
    I was told I needed to keep my bolts in a separate locked compartment in a different location, and I keep my ammo in a completely different building. Even after pointing out the exact wording in the regs she still refused to accept it.

    2.2.6 Ammunition
    Storage
    1. Licence holders need to take reasonable steps to ensure that
    ammunition is not stored in such a way that a person who obtains
    access to the firearm also obtains access to the ammunition.8
    2. If ammunition is stored with the firearm then the firearm must be
    stored in a way that it cannot be discharged.9 Methods of doing this
    include:
    (a) immobilising the firearm by way of a trigger lock or cable,
    (b) removing the bolt and securing it separately or,
    (c) some other system to ensure that the firearm cannot be fired.
    3. A separate lockable box in a safe, which is itself installed correctly,
    is appropriate for the storage of ammunition.
    4. A separate smaller safe, installed to the same standard as a
    firearms safe, is appropriate for the storage of ammunition.

    Attachment 156764


    2. The Police will assess storage against the three areas covered in
    Regulation 19(1) which are:
    a) Ensuring that young children do not have access to the
    firearms.
    b) Preventing theft of the firearms.
    c) Ensuring that either; ammunition is not stored with the firearm;
    or that if ammunition is stored with the firearm, the firearm is
    not capable of being discharged.
    the vettor told me the ammo storage rules are goin to change
    seperate compartment in safe or out is gonna be the rule for all soonish

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    Great news for burglars and Mitre10, we will all go and buy a separate small safe to keep bolts in and any burglar can get in via the key pad or lock hole with a rusty nail and a half eaten banana. The only increase in security is making the baddie play hide and seek for an extra 20 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopua Cowboy View Post
    Great news for burglars and Mitre10, we will all go and buy a separate small safe to keep bolts in and any burglar can get in via the key pad or lock hole with a rusty nail and a half eaten banana. The only increase in security is making the baddie play hide and seek for an extra 20 seconds.
    That's not the point of it. The point of it is an embuggerance to you so you give up your license and do something else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger Mouse View Post
    That's not the point of it. The point of it is an embuggerance to you so you give up your license and do something else
    Exactly.................make it soooo dfficult you give up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger Mouse View Post
    That's not the point of it. The point of it is an embuggerance to you so you give up your license and do something else
    Or the opposite - make some dig their toes in..
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    I gave my friendly AO a gentle reminder yesterday that it is four months since I submitted a renewal application and as yet I have not heard diddly squat from anyone. My license expires in six months so I will be ramping up the frequency of contact shortly as I definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    I gave my friendly AO a gentle reminder yesterday that it is four months since I submitted a renewal application and as yet I have not heard diddly squat from anyone. My license expires in six months so I will be ramping up the frequency of contact shortly as I definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel theory.
    Same Rushy, I handed my application in a couple of months ago, mine expires in March......will contact them.....
    While I might not be as good as I once was, Im as good once as I ever was!

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    I've just moved to Taupo, so did the necessary with the AO. Rung, left a message and had a text within an hour.
    He came over the next day and ticked the boxes, all ok it seems.

    Contrast that with a 4 year wait (and still waiting) for a check in Auckland. (pre ChCh though)
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    Applied for renewal in Nelson/Tasman late Sept. License arrived today, although they Gave me C1 they didn't give me the required P7 for magazines in keeping with my collection. Working thru this with the AO now, but so far he seems receptive to supporting an amendment. This was all discussed during vetting so I have no idea where it fell thru the cracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Nolan View Post
    I've just moved to Taupo, so did the necessary with the AO. Rung, left a message and had a text within an hour.
    He came over the next day and ticked the boxes, all ok it seems.

    Contrast that with a 4 year wait (and still waiting) for a check in Auckland. (pre ChCh though)
    Change of address security checks aren't too involved compared to a full licence renewal. The Taupo AO and vettors are very efficient and good to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopua Cowboy View Post
    Great news for burglars and Mitre10, we will all go and buy a separate small safe to keep bolts in and any burglar can get in via the key pad or lock hole with a rusty nail and a half eaten banana. The only increase in security is making the baddie play hide and seek for an extra 20 seconds.
    besides the gun safe we have 2 small safes in the house. ones for passports etc and the other for jewellery. about a month back the jewellery safe wouldnt open by the keypad. no issues i though i have the backup key.
    it didnt work !
    10 minutes later with no power tools i was in to it.
    the best security of all ( and i have been in the alarm industry off and on for 25 years) is not letting people know what you own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    I gave my friendly AO a gentle reminder yesterday that it is four months since I submitted a renewal application and as yet I have not heard diddly squat from anyone. My license expires in six months so I will be ramping up the frequency of contact shortly as I definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel theory.
    Good luck cuz,

    Mine took 11 months and 10 days, from my interview in late February, to it appearing in my letter box. These people are beyond useless.
    After six months they provided me with an email to cover me in case I was stopped on the road or for purchases etc. Up until then they wouldn’t do anything.

    Turn time in Christchurch, 5-6 weeks.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    I gave my friendly AO a gentle reminder yesterday that it is four months since I submitted a renewal application and as yet I have not heard diddly squat from anyone. My license expires in six months so I will be ramping up the frequency of contact shortly as I definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel theory.
    They are overloaded in Otago, did my interview on boxing day because they had a free slot.

 

 

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