Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Delta DPT


User Tag List

Like Tree263Likes

Thread: Pointer and Setter Trials

  1. #226
    Ejected
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    2,572
    heheehehehhee

    Plenty of birds, but a lot more bunnies,

  2. #227
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    694
    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfry View Post
    In fact when Bendigo were releasing pheasants a strong NI contingent did come down. The verdict: impossible to run a game trials too many rabbits. Yes there were plenty of quail and pheasants in the area, but I can still see one of the countries top Irish Setters disappearing over a ridge hard on the heels of yet another rabbit.
    Trialing at Waitotara, there are more rabbits than pheasants and quail, yet results are still achieved. In fact the Working Spaniel Club, whose mainstay is rabbits, compete there just as regularly as the P&S crew.

  3. #228
    Member el borracho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Orkland
    Posts
    2,980
    I think the P&S Club flagged the area for now as it was shot to shit with little game in it nowadays .I think it was once stocked by the clubs but given the public could decimate the population quickly it was decided to cease P&S trials there currently.
    Even if there are bunnies one can still run a trial effectively providing the rabbit proofing has been done -my dog is good with rabbits but even so still like the little bastards
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

  4. #229
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    694
    Quote Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
    I think the P&S Club flagged the area for now as it was shot to shit with little game in it nowadays .I think it was once stocked by the clubs but given the public could decimate the population quickly it was decided to cease P&S trials there currently.
    Even if there are bunnies one can still run a trial effectively providing the rabbit proofing has been done -my dog is good with rabbits but even so still like the little bastards
    The birds were provided by Rathmoy and looked after by Tony Connor. However, since the Connor's moved to Rotorua, there is no-one to take up the job.

    Despite the public access to Waitotara, there were less contacts with birds on the Far North trip last year.

  5. #230
    Gold member Pointer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    3,989
    Not to mention the inter-club politics and certain members of both clubs bombing it up

  6. #231
    Member EeeBees's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    past the gum trees on your left
    Posts
    5,046
    Quote Originally Posted by Wirehunt View Post
    You don't need that big of an area to run 7 dogs and get them all onto good numbers of birds, but some of the ground is steep. However I can think of maybe 5 offhand.

    Wire, we know steep!!!!
    ...amitie, respect mutuel et amour...

    ...le beau et le bon, cela rime avec Breton!...

  7. #232
    Member EeeBees's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    past the gum trees on your left
    Posts
    5,046
    Whats with rabbits for pete's sake....Rathmoy for one is crawling with them and possums...how many dogs have been eliminated through treeing/barking etc a possum at Rathmoy and Titoki for that matter...and anyway, creatures other than gamebirds are a test to both handler and dog...so why not enjoy the challenge the possible hiccup or two...
    ...amitie, respect mutuel et amour...

    ...le beau et le bon, cela rime avec Breton!...

  8. #233
    Ejected
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    2,572
    No one has given me even a half ply reason not to trial on rabbits.

  9. #234
    Caretaker stug's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Rolleston, Canterbury
    Posts
    4,878
    It probably dates back to rabbits being vermin in England, while pheasants etc are game.
    Also it is a lot easier to teach a dog not to chase flying game, rather than running game. There is something about a rabbit or hare running in front of a dog that just makes them want to chase.

  10. #235
    Ejected
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    2,572
    tisk tisk. One of the best days I ever had shooting was over a GSP pointing rabbits. I thought these flash dogs would be good at it and hold.....
    Interesting the dog world still can't break from motherland.

  11. #236
    Ejected
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    2,572
    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    There is something about a rabbit or hare running in front of a dog that just makes them want to chase.
    Which would really sort the dogs and trainers out fast. Must be to hard
    Pointer likes this.

  12. #237
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    974
    the whole game list is warped, the purist pointer/setter needs big ground to run in pursuit of a swamp dwelling chinese ring neck.
    some where along the line they forgot even the pheasant was a ring in.

  13. #238
    Caretaker stug's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Rolleston, Canterbury
    Posts
    4,878
    I think the real purists run their setters on the grouse moors.

  14. #239
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    974
    exactly............ for everything else theres spaniels.

  15. #240
    Caretaker stug's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Rolleston, Canterbury
    Posts
    4,878
    and GWP's

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Llewellin Setter breed
    By el borracho in forum Trial, Pedigree and Bird Dogs
    Replies: 87
    Last Post: 08-03-2014, 08:01 AM
  2. English setter pups
    By upnorth uplander in forum Trial, Pedigree and Bird Dogs
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 04-08-2012, 04:19 PM
  3. Trials, Mounties and Stubble Quail
    By EeeBees in forum Game Bird Hunting
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 27-05-2012, 10:41 PM
  4. Trials, and Stubble Quail
    By EeeBees in forum Game Bird Hunting
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 27-05-2012, 12:12 PM
  5. English Setter for Stud
    By el borracho in forum Trial, Pedigree and Bird Dogs
    Replies: 55
    Last Post: 09-05-2012, 01:52 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!