Thread: Cartridge popularity survey. Gibo, this one aint for you.

Originally Posted by Tahr

And since when did a water bottle become a Nalgene?? FFS

In the 26,390 days of my life thus far I have not ever heard of that word until reading it in your post just now.

Most of the "new" calibers - like , in the last 20 years - are products of the marketing division of firearm and ammunition manufacturers.

Few of them fill any actual need , they simply rely on " this is our new and greatest calibre " , and there is always a market for new and greatest. Thats why there are firearms for sale all the time - the seller has found that "new and greatest" rifle and has to have it .

I shall stick to my old fashioned calibers , I think. Hell - the newest caliber I shoot is .17 Mach11 rimfire.

Dead is dead , no matter the flashy marketing from the ammo company

More than a few new chamberings are designed to fit in an AR mag...

Just watched the video and am happy that my hunting rifle team came in first, third and fifth. Maybe I should go for a walk with them again one day.

Originally Posted by fawkes

Most of the "new" calibers - like , in the last 20 years - are products of the marketing division of firearm and ammunition manufacturers.

Few of them fill any actual need , they simply rely on " this is our new and greatest calibre " , and there is always a market for new and greatest. Thats why there are firearms for sale all the time - the seller has found that "new and greatest" rifle and has to have it .

I shall stick to my old fashioned calibers , I think. Hell - the newest caliber I shoot is .17 Mach11 rimfire.

Dead is dead , no matter the flashy marketing from the ammo company

It's all over the hunting world. If you think rifles and cartridges are bad, you should see compound bows, where every year they bring out a "new" model with scientifically developed cams etc. In truth the gains over the 20 years I have used bows has Probably been realistically something like 10fps of arrow speed. 20 if lucky. If you can believe the quoted numbers and if they will work on an actual hunting weight arrow.

Isn't Nalgene a brand? Like Sellotape and Esky?

Originally Posted by Tentman

Haha, made my day this thread, I tried to buy a 270 last night but missed out. But I joined the great unwashed this morning with one in a Tikka. Instead of a 30-284. Sometimes boring is good.

Proving theres some common sense in the Deep South!

Now all you need to do is sell all your other guns, and you will know perfection.

303 british has shot more deer than all the rest put together. ( I think nalgene may be an octane booster.)

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

A statistical sample of 800 out of 107 000 000 firearm owners... hmmm. That's a whopping 0.0000074766% of the population of US gun owners, before you even start taking bias into account. Make of that what you will.

The video was on cartridge preference for general hunting, which is a small subsection of total gun ownership and usage in the US. Jim probably reaches a decent spread of the hunting crowd so 800 spread around the country is likely to be reasonably indicative of their historical choices.

@Tahr, wouldn’t expect the 223 to be on that list at all. They prefer a bit more gun over there for general use.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Exactly. As soon as I saw .223 wasn't at the top I knew it was skewed.

A lot of Americans hunt where there are critters that will eat you. A good incentive to use enough gun.
Perhaps a reasonable number of the 223 hunters didn't make it.

Originally Posted by Woody

303 british has shot more deer than all the rest put together. ( I think nalgene may be an octane booster.)

The 3006 is the US equivalent of 303, and given the survey is US based it’s not surprising to see 3006 up there & no mention of 303. None of the traditional Euro calibres like 6.5 Swede, 7x57, 7x64 etc rate a mention either. Again no surprises

Yeah. I meant NZ. Probably 30-06 in USA, 6.5 swede in scandinavia, etc.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Exactly.
The "Americanisation" of our sport here annoys me. Every time I get an advertising email from Hardy nowadays I want to puke. Not because of their products but because of how they now promote them. Same for some of the NZ YouTube hunting vids - they are more like a marine military exercise than a good old hunting trip. We are losing our unique identity to this stuff.
And since when did a water bottle become a Nalgene?? FFS

I see it pervading even tramping videos: "Spending a night in a mountain cabin in a storm" FFS, it was the South island and its called a bloody HUT!!!

I like that presentation.

Interesting the 7mm08 is so popular over there. I thought it was just a NZ thing.

The newer cartridges of course havent had a chance to develop a big following yet.

This is an American list though. In NZ the .30/6 would not be in the top ten at all.

What is significant as well, is the numbers of people who used each cartridge - here in Dunedin Chaz Forsyth kept a record of what cartridges were brough to the NZDA range over several months and the results showed that fully half of the hunters in this area used a .308.


(The rest were miles behind with the 7mm08, .243 and .270 next up from memory. Everything else was squeezed into the bottom. This was 15 years ago, but I doubt teh top spot has changed, although from my own observation there are many more people shooting .223's now than ever before .)