Thread: Total lock down in 48hours

Originally Posted by Sideshow

I wonder if you put them in the microwave for 20sec looks like this virus is very fragile. Just look up how long it lasts on cardboard paper.

This from Harvard Medical School.

How long can the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 survive on surfaces?

A recent study found that the COVID-19 coronavirus can survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The researchers also found that this virus can hang out as droplets in the air for up to three hours before they fall. But most often they will fall more quickly.

There's a lot we still don't know, such as how different conditions, such as exposure to sunlight, heat, or cold, can affect these survival times.

As we learn more, continue to follow the CDC's recommendations for cleaning frequently touched surfaces and objects every day. These include counters, tabletops, doorknobs, bathroom fixtures, toilets, phones, keyboards, tablets, and bedside tables.

If surfaces are dirty, first clean them using a detergent and water, then disinfect them. A list of products suitable for use against COVID-19 is available here. This list has been pre-approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use during the COVID-19 outbreak.

In addition, wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and water after bringing in packages, or after trips to the grocery store or other places where you may have come into contact with infected surfaces.

Both the PM and the Ministry of health say that three days is how long CV can survive on surfaces. However a link in the Ministry Website to a German study says nine days survival on plastic with 50% Relative Humidity. Who is right ??? I myself am simply applying a two week quarantine to dry goods groceries by dating the cardboard box they are in and placing them in the store room for later use.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Both the PM and the Ministry of health say that three days is how long CV can survive on surfaces........................

First, If you believe what The Minister of Hugs and sad faces says, Boy Oh Boy, have me and my bruver's got a deal for you.

A large bridge in our Largest city Auckland , good annual returns and today only, JUST FOR YOU only $50,000 in "notes and coins of the realm."
BUT WAIT, there's more, For another $25, 000 we will throw in a similar bridge located in the country of our largest neigbour, Australia,
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Second.......Coronavirus stayed on surfaces for up to 17 days on Diamond Princess cruise, CDC says

A link..... Watch the video as well .. https://tinyurl.com/wehhy58

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

First, If you believe what The Minister of Hugs and sad faces says, Boy Oh Boy, have me and my bruver's got a deal for you.

A large bridge in our Largest city Auckland , good annual returns and today only, JUST FOR YOU only $50,000 in "notes and coins of the realm."
BUT WAIT, there's more, For another $25, 000 we will throw in a similar bridge located in the country of our largest neigbour, Australia,
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Second.......Coronavirus stayed on surfaces for up to 17 days on Diamond Princess cruise, CDC says

A link..... Watch the video as well .. https://tinyurl.com/wehhy58

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@Kiwi Sapper, we need to get the message out to everyone to Quarantine goods coming into the household. If you re-read my post I am applying a two week dated quarantine. The Virus may still be detectable on surfaces after 17 days as was found in the study that you linked, and in all reality it may (RNA) be detectable in 100 years. What we don't know is for how long it is viable and can cause infection. Longer than the three days the PM tells us. Desiccating ( drying ) the virus on package surfaces should be the aim of storage

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

@Kiwi Sapper, we need to get the message out to everyone to Quarantine goods coming into the household. If you re-read my post I am applying a two week dated quarantine..........................

@Moa Hunter Your concern that "goods" could hold the virus was raised a couple of weeks ago about packages from Aliexpress, China. Initially NZ Customs said they would delay processing them for a period but then went all silent....Nothing since. I did note that I received one delivery since their statement and that was not delayed.

HOWEVER, I agree you have a valid point about this and 14 + days is probably a good starting point in view of the uncertainty and "false news."

A proviso, treat all of the Show Pony's statements with the derision they deserve because of her ongoing history of political falsehoods.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

@Kiwi Sapper, we need to get the message out to everyone to Quarantine goods coming into the household. If you re-read my post I am applying a two week dated quarantine. The Virus may still be detectable on surfaces after 17 days as was found in the study that you linked, and in all reality it may (RNA) be detectable in 100 years. What we don't know is for how long it is viable and can cause infection. Longer than the three days the PM tells us. Desiccating ( drying ) the virus on package surfaces should be the aim of storage

From speaking with the smart people, IMO this advice about desiccation is spot on. Plus, Tincture of (Elapsed) Time before opening/touching anything is our friend in this context.

Xi-virus loves itself our warm wet places (above the waistline...) which is why it multiplies so vigorously / so early on (a thousand times the volume of SARS virus particles are shed) in the mouth, nose, nasopharynx and airway, before it then does a deep dive down to those lovely moist lungs.

It does not love hot dry places.