Thread: Will COVID-19 change your purchasing decisions?

You only need to look at the way freezers increased in price to see the lack of respect kiwi retailers have for their customers.

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Originally Posted by Huntfisheat

Buying? Living. I'll have to seriously look at wether I can continue to afford to be a hunter in the short term. Gas, RUC's, ammo? Luxuries. I can guarantee a feed at the supermarket.
Anybody want a 60 year old jack of all master of none for a farm job?

There will be a bit of that thinking going on....


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Originally Posted by Woody

Govt was too slow to act. Consequences could have been less.

Yep, the writing was on the wall in Europe a long time before our inept crew took action.
And they only had to look at what Singapore did for what action to take.

Originally Posted by sightpicture

The COL fucked it up. We warned them. Cinders was focused on Burqa-virtue. You can disagree. Whatever.

Again, in the context of what other governments (say australia or the states) are doing what our government has done is far more effective. Sure its not perfect but its hardly like they have a crystal ball.

Originally Posted by Woody

Govt was too slow to act. Consequences could have been less.

(Dont take this the wrong way, I agree, I just think its actually pretty fucking hard to manage calls like this and nowhere near as black and white as its made out to be.)

Could be a whole lot worse, adjusted for our population, if we had handled it like America we would have hit the 100 dead mark by now

It was easy to forecast.
The problem as I see it is with politics. It needed to get 'bad' enough to provide the mandate for lockdown.
If locked down or stopped all flights in and out of nz when the word got out of Wuhan there would have been he'll to pay with a 'completely unnecessary over reaction rhetoric'

Originally Posted by Tahr

Agree.

Maybe its time to take a swallow on H&F stores and support them again (for those who say they won't support them). Or will peoples' principles get in the way of "support NZ" to keep local businesses going?

Going forward I will support NZ businesses (I have been a big off shore shopper in the past). But I will be cutting my spending too.

Nope sorry H&F are forever on the shit list



If all other countries decided to buy locally only, we'd be doing rather poorly as an exporting nation. Comparative advantage - we can produce some things more effectively/efficiently than other nations and vice versa. A protectionist outlook taken to the extreme just means we end up with more expensive, poorer quality locally made goods, in the case of things we can't do well, and no export income.

I never said I would go back to shopping at Hunting and Fishing, I simply said there service would have been better and more reliable that what I got supporting the local guy.

Unless of course I was buying empty promises, deflections and excuses and blame shifting, in which case I got exactly what I was paying for in spades!!

Originally Posted by timattalon

how many tourists will be here to use hotel / motel rooms? And how many people will actually venture out to restaurants?

Anybody up for a cruise?

Not much is going to change in my household in general. We tend to go about daily life on a minimalist/do we really need it or do we just want it approach, balancing a save money and spend wisely attitude. It's easy to go to Kmart and buy 5 shirts at 5 bucks each, but they just don't last and the profit margin of a giant chain is insane.

Purchasing hunting gear was always going to follow the same rules, do I really need it or do I just want it, how can I do the most possible with the least possible and still enjoy it or do it safely. I've only got 3 guns, one air rifle one rimfire and one centrefire. Unless I start chasing gamebirds and want a shotgun too, its gonna stay that way. Even the air rifle might go, its more a want than a need and only gets used rarely for punching paper in the driveway.

The gear isn't cheap and I have none of it, not even a jacket or suitable pack so anything I buy will be scrutinised pretty hard to know its not going to be discarded before its time for whatever reason. I'll buy local or used before anything else unless I have no other alternative to get what I need.

Originally Posted by sdogg73

Where do you try on your boots and clothes, look through optics, handle equipment? At the manufacturers premises or in NZ? There's 2 issues at work here in what people term as gouging. Manufacturers who want a wholesaler to push their product regionally, but then are unscrupulous and online sell to that region at not much above price to wholesaler. And then wholesalers and retailers that have to stock multiple product lines in varying sizes/configurations with all the associated costs and still make profit. Just for someone to walk in,have the convenience of trying said item and buying off shore.

I come from a time when the local shop had bugger all stock for things a bit out of the ordinary, and it was "ordered in" after the abysmal waiting time for it to be delivered, you were pretty much forced in to buying it even if you didnt like it.
Kinda like buying on line really. Except your drooled over it in a magazine trying to decide if it was what you needed.

Originally Posted by gimp

Nope sorry H&F are forever on the shit list



If all other countries decided to buy locally only, we'd be doing rather poorly as an exporting nation. Comparative advantage - we can produce some things more effectively/efficiently than other nations and vice versa. A protectionist outlook taken to the extreme just means we end up with more expensive, poorer quality locally made goods, in the case of things we can't do well, and no export income.

Yup, international trade is very much a 2 way street. We have entire industries built on china's demand. Look at things like crayfish

Originally Posted by Woody

Yes. If a family had managed to save NZ$100,000 as at January 2020 it would have been worth about US$90,000 (The major international trading currency).
Today our NZ$100,000 is devalued to approx US$60,000; so our NZ family has lost 40% of its tradeable equity almost overnight. On top of that we are goung into a massive national debt because the COL failed to shut out the covid19 by decisive decisionmakung action. The opposition too, and the "expert" economists failed to scream "DANGER" loudly and quickly enough.
I hope the gullible NZ state dependents now created will demand accountability from the mutts that have sold us into servitude.

Huh? In Jan 2020 the nzd was at like 65 cents. The only time it was close to 90 was 6-7 years ago from memory...

I think our economy will be comparably less affected then other countries but I guess we will wait and see

Originally Posted by Nick-D

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(Dont take this the wrong way, I agree, I just think its actually pretty fucking hard to manage calls like this and nowhere near as black and white as its made out to be.)

Could be a whole lot worse, adjusted for our population, if we had handled it like America we would have hit the 100 dead mark by now

@Nick-D
Make sarc if you like. I have been consistent in my view for severak weeks, as have a few others on here. Say what you like but the fact is that government PM senior officials and Ministers are charged with careing for our Nation effectively snd efficiently.
They have FAILED in many respects including acting in the most timely way with Duty of Care for NEW ZEALAND. So BACK OFF ME chap. These mutts have not performed to proper standards.
Now, tgey have a bs health minister andxare akso running out of test equipment too.

So oil is at an 18 year low price wise, we cant use much of it at present , but where is the low fuel price we had 18 years ago?

Originally Posted by johnd

So oil is at an 18 year low price wise, we cant use much of it at present , but where is the low fuel price we had 18 years ago?

Fuel (the type one puts in their vehicle), is only part of the true purpose of oil. Plastics of all forms, the clothes (polyesters) you wear, the casings on your toaster, vacuum cleaner, even your contemporary rifle stock, all come from oil. So one is using it, one will continue to buy it.

Nothing ever goes back. It's a "progressive society".