Thread: Proposed banning of lead shot in sub gauge shotguns report from Southland

Originally Posted by Mike H

If someone can explain to me how to upload a document I can put up the paper from when the initial research was done. I can't find it on a website to put up a link.

R93, chill bro. People may care but they are hypocritical and ignorant to the facts if they think its okay to feed lead to ducks. We have dabbling water everywhere in this country. Ducks need it to gather and seive grit. They don't get it from paddocks.

I'm not an expert just because I'm on the Council. We have staff that are who present the info to us. Because you don't attend meetings and hear and see it your unfortunately not privy to it all. We make our decisions based off of that.

Have you ever read any of the available material when you say you've seen no evidence?

hardcase when feeding leads shot to ducks was exactly what the aw researcher did
but dont reality ruin your overemotive arguement

I just cant be fucked anymore. Do what ya's want, ya will anyway.
If this ban comes into the coast and I see it happening I will never buy another licence and just shoot sporting clays because shooting decoying ducks is to me is as boring as DTL, but easier.
I cant be ass'ed funding a body that is happy too or does not even consider it has cost me large sums of money by their over zealous decisions.
I have no doubt lead is toxic to ducks. So I must be ignorant. Rusty steel pellets must be ingested by ducks for grit. It will not wear down like lead. Where are the toxicity results on that Mike?
But it is a percentage thing. The % of fowl reduction compared to other issues is minute. Starvation kills more ducks than hunters do IMO.

I have in my time attended a few meetings and frankly, wished I spent the time, listening to an hour of Jim Careys most annoying sound in the world.

Mick H, I respect the time and the effort you put in to what is obviously a passionate cause for you. However if you honestly think that 96% of duck shooters up our way use steel shot for shooting ducks then, I truely don't know what to say to you.

Check sales man, do you really think all that lead bought in April is going to be used on clays.

Are you talking 12 or 20 gauge?

Originally Posted by Mike H

Are you talking 12 or 20 gauge?

I would have thought it was obvious that he is talking 12g

Correct.

Thats a worry then, their time will come.

Originally Posted by Mike H

Thats a worry then, their time will come.

Fine Mike, then they will just stop shooting. It's as simple as that.
It's getting to damned expensive for a family man anyway.

Originally Posted by jakewire

Fine Mike, then they will just stop shooting. It's as simple as that.
It's getting to damned expensive for a family man anyway.

Why will they stop? The performance in their minds of steel or the price of it?

Originally Posted by Mike H

Why will they stop? The performance in their minds of steel or the price of it?

No you don't get it do you
Licence, desiel./petrol, shot.etc
people see steel as not as effective, have to pay more, fishing licence costs 115$ , nah fuckit.
I have several people my age , even less, that have just basically given up
they can no longer afford it.

Originally Posted by jakewire

No you don't get it do you
Licence, desiel./petrol, shot.etc
people see steel as not as effective, have to pay more, fishing licence costs 115$ , nah fuckit.
I have several people my age , even less, that have just basically given up
they can no longer afford it.

Thats pretty sad having to give up something you enjoy because of cost. I dont see it stopping either. There will be a lot more giving up.

by the way mike H-you owe KWB an apology mr wiseguy !This aint him ,and you know theres ample evidence to the contrary as well.but since youre mentioning KWB-its a case of tale wagging dog ,and as you can see southland F&Gpopularity is about as popular as dogcrap on the wifes new shoes.just setting out a few facts ,nothing personal ,its business.

Originally Posted by kotuku

by the way mike H-you owe KWB an apology mr wiseguy !This aint him ,and you know theres ample evidence to the contrary as well.but since youre mentioning KWB-its a case of tale wagging dog ,and as you can see southland F&Gpopularity is about as popular as dogcrap on the wifes new shoes.just setting out a few facts ,nothing personal ,its business.

Sorry to KWB, its the other one, Tube

I haven't seen anyone from Southland have a go at us yet , just the usual suspects from other regions

And no I don't know that there is ample evidence to the contrary so would be delighted if you could share it please

Originally Posted by Mike H

I haven't seen anyone from Southland have a go at us yet , just the usual suspects from other regions

Thats because Southland still has the duck numbers, give it a few seasons

Originally Posted by Mike H

Sorry to KWB, its the other one, Tube

I haven't seen anyone from Southland have a go at us yet , just the usual suspects from other regions

And no I don't know that there is ample evidence to the contrary so would be delighted if you could share it please

absolute and utter piffle -its well documented on the other side -go read! BTWthe tone of your other posting is a trifle grandiose.