Thread: 1080 KILLING FISH

Well done Aly.

Good post Aly.

We are lead by some so blind

DOC knows best. The buffer zone on streams have recently been removed so they can sow directly into them now. I noted a few years ago that DOC had began to refer to trout as the possums of the waterways.

This was about the time DOC had applied for a resource consent to use the poison Rotenone to kill trout in the Wellington Catchment.

Time to be frightened when they remove the buffer zones from around our waterways.

Originally Posted by Scribe

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Time to be frightened when they remove the buffer zones from around our waterways.

This stuff has been going into our water a spreading through our food chain for 60 years.

All is not lost though our kind friends in Australia have offered to help out. We just have to send the word they tell us.

I think the buffer zones are imaginary anyway.

Originally Posted by Dundee

I think the buffer zones are imaginary anyway.

You are right 'Dundee' when we investigated the rivers after a drop even the ones with Buffer Zones we always found 1080 pellets in them.

But we still regard the removal of 'Buffer Zones' from around catchments from which water supplies are drawn as a rather sinister new development. About 4 % of all streams sampled contain more than the maximum allowable dose of 1080 in them.

Its a sort of a lottery for anyone living close to a drop zone whether you get a shot of 1080 or not.

They don't exist - correct Dundee. just look at the provided GPS data points for overflight with a overlay of waterways on Google and you'll see tributary and small stream as well as many larger ones in the paths of over flight. We all know how the monsoon delivery system works - spring and sling as the chopper pilots refer to it (or at least my mate who is now flying up on the oil rigs in the UK did). 100m to the edge of the target zone is minimal margin area as has been proven over the years.

I know DOC and E-pro will say that video of pellets in the waterways have been planted there, but who provides oversight of this program at a Governmental level DOC or MOH anyway? surely they need to provide proof as to steps taken to mitigate effects etc...for reviews of funding, resource consents and the like. I know if I did something on my land I'd be up the wazoo with red tape and inspections...

Buffer zones will mean bugger all to migratory aquatic species that forage en-route in the waterways eating tasty items such as snails, koura and other aquatic items, and one good downpour can relocate fish kilometers down stream not to mention their own migratory patterns.

You're right CD. What is happening and unrecognised by DoC and the Animal Health Board aka TB Free NZ and the Regional Councils which issue the poison consents is that the food chain ,especially the upper tiers which include predatory birds such as Morepork, Heron, Kingfisher, kaka, Kea, Weka, Falcon, Harrier, Pukeko, Blue and Grey ducks, all normally have to work quite hard for their prey / tucker-- Prey food such as rats, mice, nymphs and worms and insects.

What happens when 1080 is dropped in their environment is the rapid creation of a banquet of poisonous tucker, half dead or dead, very easy to catch and then eat. There is absolutely zero protection for these precious non target creatures to prevent them from consuming and dying from poisoned natural foods.
The removal of buffer zones virtually guarantees that the aquatic parts of the eco-system are condemned to the same poisonous exposure as the dry land and forest dwelling species.

The aftermath of polluted and toxic waste on land and in waterways is guaranteed and lasts many months.

Responsible management? I think not.

In the long run, trapping is safer and efficient and cheaper with many social benefits.

Woody the ears of officialdom are deaf and its eyes are blind. It will take a human death before any government departments will adopt different views.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Woody the ears of officialdom are deaf and its eyes are blind. It will take a human death before any government departments will adopt different views.

We have had a human death Rushy. But for a long time it was denied by the Government agency. I have a copy of the medical report and the family has the death certificate.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Woody the ears of officialdom are deaf and its eyes are blind. It will take a human death before any government departments will adopt different views.

Despite the Medical Report and the Death Certificate many Government Agencies still claim there has never been a death from 1080 poisoning in NZ.

It suits them to claim there has never been a death but in doing so they deny the truth and cause the victims family a lot of grief.

We should not be surprised they act this way as many of the facts surrounding 1080 are very unpalatable and the urge to suppress them is growing greater day by day.

Any one know where the bloody factory is or is that Top Secret?

Originally Posted by Dundee

Any one know where the bloody factory is or is that Top Secret?

Wanganui,

Animal Control Products
408 Heads Road
Castlecliff 4501

Down towards the Heads. I have brought cyanide there often enough over the years.