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    Quote Originally Posted by Allgood View Post
    Good question. One thing I have noticed with the majority of people jigging on the charter boat is that they all use the same technique. Drop to the bottom, jig rapidly to the surface then repeat. I am lazy old and find that very tiring.
    Working on the charter boat means that I when I have the opportunity to drop a line I have keep well clear of the paying customers to avoid tangles or interfering with their fishing. Due to the design of the boat and our survey limits, paying customers are limited to fishing from the cockpit which is large enough to accommodate 26 people. As luck would have it, where I fish places me close enough to the electronics to be able to see the sonar.
    Modern high quality commercial electronics with experienced use, can show much much more than just the presence of fish. they can also show different species and fish size and have a number of settings to enhance this. I can also see the jigs as other guys jig to the surface and often note that they pass by bigger fish without a strike. Armed with that knowledge I can pass on that info to the customers. When I jig, if normal methods arent working I present the jig in various ways rather than a simple drop and jig on the retrieve. Both of the kings yesterday struck on what I call 'reverse' jigging.
    As the jig was free falling to the bottom, I stop the spool with my finger, lift the rod high in a jerky double motion so the jig jerks up twice then drop the rod to below horizontal which releases about a metre of line before repeating the action. After each stop and double jerk, this causes the jig ( especially Knife jigs) to flutter as it drops. If a fish strikes, the line will normally remain slack rather than regaining tension from the weight of the jig and I will then rapidly wind and strike by lifting the rod tip.

    If I dont get a strike on the drop, I let the jig settle to the bottom then instead of jigging rapidly to the surface I slow jig back up through the water column by lifting the rod in 2 or 3 jerks each lift of the tip until I pass through what appears to be the bigger fish. I also vary that movement by dropping the rod tip quickly to create slack so that the jig flutters on the way up.
    On saturdays trip I watched a guy jig for about 20mins without a strike using the normal method. I told him to try the above but due to his mind set he couldnt get his head around the mechanics of it.. He finally asked me to demonstrate the method. Using my gear, I threw a jig over the side and gave him a running commentary as I demonstrated the method.....on the 4th lift and double jerk I hooked up a 95cm King, brought it to the boat and to his credit he refused the offer of the fish and we released it... He then tried the same method and hooked up on his first drop..........

    It doesnt work everytime, but if the fish wont strike using normal methods then try something else.......

    Keep it to yourself my friend, we dont want everyone targeting the bigger ones

    Oh, and it the same idea about bigger baits catch bigger fish applies........I look at the size of jigs others are using and go bigger if my gear can handle it......
    Good to know thanks.
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    Head light batteries done ....even laid out fishing uniform ...ohhh the long wait ...off to tie rigs ..
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    The long wait begins...first snapper hunt of this season ...could be sharky ..might be epic! 430 am ...hurry the fuck up...I know he said 5 but he’ll be here at 430!

    Rods are ready , knots are tied and tested . Dog is giving me the stink eye , tucker is sorted ...thermos on the bench .....ohh the long waiiiiit begins. I’m shaved trimmed my nails , checked the weather ...got bait out defrosting slowly in the beer fridge , will get a burley out at midnight so it can pump goodness straight off the bat ..checked weather again ...ahh off to charge head light batteries ....how good a life ...this good a life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stingray View Post
    The long wait begins...first snapper hunt of this season ...could be sharky ..might be epic! 430 am ...hurry the fuck up...I know he said 5 but he’ll be here at 430!

    Rods are ready , knots are tied and tested . Dog is giving me the stink eye , tucker is sorted ...thermos on the bench .....ohh the long waiiiiit begins. I’m shaved trimmed my nails , checked the weather ...got bait out defrosting slowly in the beer fridge , will get a burley out at midnight so it can pump goodness straight off the bat ..checked weather again ...ahh off to charge head light batteries ....how good a life ...this good a life!
    I will give you a wave.......on my way to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by stingray View Post
    The long wait begins...first snapper hunt of this season ...could be sharky ..might be epic! 430 am ...hurry the fuck up...I know he said 5 but he’ll be here at 430!

    Rods are ready , knots are tied and tested . Dog is giving me the stink eye , tucker is sorted ...thermos on the bench .....ohh the long waiiiiit begins. I’m shaved trimmed my nails , checked the weather ...got bait out defrosting slowly in the beer fridge , will get a burley out at midnight so it can pump goodness straight off the bat ..checked weather again ...ahh off to charge head light batteries ....how good a life ...this good a life!
    Don't forget your snapper lures.
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    Experience. What you get just after you needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shearer View Post
    I detect a leak....
    Im sure Joe will post up a yarn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I detect a leak....
    Im sure Joe will post up a yarn.
    No leak. Just an expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shearer View Post
    No leak. Just an expectation.
    Ahhhhh now I see the above posts ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shearer View Post
    No leak. Just an expectation.
    Well there was the fattest gurnard I have ever seen caught by Joe... And I have caught a lot of gurnard but this one was epic .
    Epic dolphin epic dophin experience.
    Beach launching and retrieving fails and stuff.
    Manana.

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    not seeing any pics, so i guess it didnt happen
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    Due to the time of the tide we launched off the beach at cable bay, there was a bit more swell than is ideal and we dropped the motor onto the hard getting off the trailer
    Out into the darkness we dropped long lines and set up with a massive burly trail as the sky lightened and the rain continued.
    Good current on the last of the outgoing we were optimistic and Joe set to thinning out the sharks so I could catch a snapper but alas I let the team down and got piss all then all of a sudden Joe caught this donky of a gurnard.
    49cm and 2.5pound but the most impressive thing was it was thicker than a can of beer threw the shoulders!
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    Tide petered out and the wind came up so we picked up lines and released a few sharks and went to tuck up in the lee and catch some cod. On the way we came across a big pod of dolphins, they criused along side us at 15 knts and were jumping way out of the water right next to the boat...it was pretty bloody cool!
    Legal cod were surprisingly easily caught to fill our limits of two each and the wind and rain stopped and it got quite pleasant for a bit you could almost see the sun.
    We burlyed up again off a point that has produced well in the past for Terrys and Snapper for the incoming push.
    Lots of snapper that while legal were a bit on the small side and being from shallow water we released all but one.
    We tried shallow we tried deep so we tried in the middle and caught 3 sharks in as many minutes and bugged out as the wind came up again to hide in cable bay and use up the last of the burly.
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    Swell direction had changed a bit and got bigger and now it was a surf beach literally as two surfers were getting out when we came in.
    Getting back on the trailer without either parking the boat in the ute or swamping the boat was gonna be a no go so Joe got out to drive around to Delaware and retrieve boat.
    Bloody legend got out way deeper than I thought he was going to and got fully wet.
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    I drove around the island to Delaware where the bar was a bit interesting but at least the tide was running in.
    Cheers Joe allways an adventure.
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    That trip really highlights the importance of maintaining public accces to Delaware bay for boat launching and retreival as the only safe spot between Nelson and Okiwi bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    That trip really highlights the importance of maintaining public accces to Delaware bay for boat launching and retreival as the only safe spot between Nelson and Okiwi bay.
    The lack of launching facilities down this way is a bloody discrace imho.
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    Just come back from up whangaroa.
    Tried for Kingis a couple of times but no joy there.
    Usually softbait for Snapper but bait and berley was much more productive this time. Had a couple of good sessions with fish up to 6 kg both times.
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    These were in 3 metres of water over a couple of hours with the incoming tide.
    Managed this fulla too on the last night spotlighting on the cousins farm.
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