Thread: Would you come along to...

Kind of like school 'donations' (fees). If you don't pay it you don't get your year book.

Originally Posted by Gillie

Lately i have been reading up on the Health & Safety in Employment (Adventure Activities) Regulations and the accompanying guidance documents put out by the Ministry of Business, Inovation & Employment. I am not sure a field target shoot can be considered an "Adventure Activity" as defined by the regulations but i am sure it could be argued either way.

Because of these regulations Malcolm and I will only be able to run shoots under one or both of the following conditions:

1. No entry fee is charged for the event, or
2. The event has to be run under the umbrella of a club or association.

As the majority of shoots we run are run with a NZDA branch this will not change these events. However it does put a serious damper on running some of the events i have discussed in this thread. This is pretty disappointing really. I am not sure i want to run shoots for free - given the work and time invovled that doesn't seem right. The only other way i can run shoots is under a club or association... i might have to start cosying up to a couple of associations other than my current invovlement in the NZDA.

Yes but you can accept koha

Originally Posted by Maca49

Yes but you can accept koha

Gillie you can run one of those types of shoots under us easy as pie.have got some bigger farms to shoot on aswell.

Run it for free and happily accept 'donations' with thanks?

Originally Posted by Littledog

Thats a shame, its only fair a fee is charged for all the organising and equipment used. Would maybe the Service Rifle Association be a starter to cosy upto?

I am not currently a member of the NZSRA but i had thought they might be a good one to talk to. Pity they don't have a club over in New Plymouth.

Based on the opinions of a couple of people i have talked to, i don't think the NZ NRA will want a bar of the long range steel shoots.

Originally Posted by Nibblet

Run it for free and happily accept 'donations' with thanks?

Having run 20+ field shoots we have only ever broken even on two events - and one of them only cause Malcolm managed to win some prize money. We aren't in it to make money but that is with charging entry fees. Can you imagine donations...


Reading the regulations i wouldn't be surprised if the exemption for clubs, associations and schools get removed sometime in the future. Such is the nanny state we live in.

Hmm maybe I could bring it up at our next club committee meeting. I'm sure there are some BOPSRA guys keen as to shoot LR.

Whatever happened to the Sniper shoot the Service Rifle guys ran at Otorohanga last year Link? That was a good event. Plenty of people there as well.

I have been thinking for a long time that service rifle would be cool to get into. I'd love to get a decent .303 and compete... would need a reloading setup first of course.

Yeah I was more meaning compulsory donations. Just whoever asks from upstairs call them a token of thanks from participants.
I'm pretty sure even if it was a true donation no one would be ballsy enough to show up without paying? Would they?
Pretty sad the direction things like OSH is going in, and then they wonder why people hide or aren't forthcoming with information.

Personally I'm keen for more LR gong shoots like what El B justs put on. Great fun, but then I haven't had try at any of the others yet. Just having some gongs made for me so I can practice.

Good luck Gillie.

yep very keen,compulsory donations all good!

I agree you can not run an event such as this and allow people to shoot for free it is just wrong lots of money is invested into equipment and for people to shoot em up at no cost to them it would be rude to even turn up wihtout having money in the pocket for a entry fee or entry donation, especially if prizes are being offered as well. But I agree the country is becoming too much of a nanny state, next thing you know properties that are used for LR shoots will end up having to become registered as rifle ranges.

Originally Posted by hunter308

I agree you can not run an event such as this and allow people to shoot for free it is just wrong lots of money is invested into equipment and for people to shoot em up at no cost to them it would be rude to even turn up wihtout having money in the pocket for a entry fee or entry donation, especially if prizes are being offered as well. But I agree the country is becoming too much of a nanny state, next thing you know properties that are used for LR shoots will end up having to become registered as rifle ranges.

SSSSSSHHHHHHHHH, don't give them ideas.

Sorry Nibblet, thats old news. Why do you think the NZ NRA doesn't run steel shoots?

So i have a date and a location confirmed but what do you think should be covered in a medium range training event?

My initial thoughts were:
Medium Range Training Event
1 or 2 days. Covering sighting in, chronographing, point blank range, drop data generation, data validation out to 600 yards or so, effective use of the scope recticle, and maybe wind if there is time. Having a scope that can dial is not a prerequisite. This event is basically to encourage people who want to get the most out of the rifle they have or maybe they want to try longer distance shooting. This will just give people a little bit of guidance to shooting at longer distances.



Don't even try and suggest wind....

Originally Posted by Gillie

So i have a date and a location confirmed but what do you think should be covered in a medium range training event?

My initial thoughts were:
Medium Range Training Event
1 or 2 days. Covering sighting in, chronographing, point blank range, drop data generation, data validation out to 600 yards or so, effective use of the scope recticle, and maybe wind if there is time. Having a scope that can dial is not a prerequisite. This event is basically to encourage people who want to get the most out of the rifle they have or maybe they want to try longer distance shooting. This will just give people a little bit of guidance to shooting at longer distances.



Don't even try and suggest wind....

What's the date.

Originally Posted by Neckshot

What's the date.

Its in November this year.