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    All the dangerous goods courses I've ever had the fortune of having to complete always go on about the original packaging.
    i.e. correctly labelled and fit for purpose, I'd say the issue with the check in staff is a hang over from similar work based training, rather than good practical judgement.
    Travelling with firearms and ammunition domestically is generally a non issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blisters View Post
    Yeah its weird how theres no single answer, keen for case what do you drink? Waikato?(eww)
    Sure. I like asahi. But won't say no to Waikato haha.

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    Yup 5kg max and original packaging for Ammo. I bring ammo back from CHC to AKL all the time and they ask me these questions. Aoraki Ammo customer!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    It seemed like ammo in separate case to rifle and bolt on your persons in your carry on was what they wanted. Best to call someone high up and see what they say.



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    FFS, “talk to someone high up”; how much time have you got to waste.....check the website of the respective airline and print the relative information off, so you’ve got proof, otherwise it’s you against the airline rep.

    The other gem... “the bolt on your person in your carry on”.....that will end in tears at security scanning.

    Oh and I work at the airport too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift14 View Post
    FFS, “talk to someone high up”; how much time have you got to waste.....check the website of the respective airline and print the relative information off, so you’ve got proof, otherwise it’s you against the airline rep.

    The other gem... “the bolt on your person in your carry on”.....that will end in tears at security scanning.

    Oh and I work at the airport too.

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    As I said. I talked to the ground staff and half of them didn't seem to know the rules so I was going by what I was told at the time. And when I searched the air nz website I found a lot more useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotsoup View Post
    Hiya.

    I recently flew to Christchurch for a hunt, I had about 15x rounds inside a standard pouch with the elastic fitted holes which you put your bullets inside. On the flight from AKLD I had no issues with security however when I checked in my bag to the flight from Christchurch to AKLD the security person said there are new rules that all ammunition has to be stored in the 'original' packaging... I had all of my rem mag AMAX rounds confiscated... My pouch wasn't acceptable.

    With these new said rules, how would I go about transporting them the next time? Would one of those green hardlid cases be acceptable?
    There are a lot of regular travellers on this forum for competition shooting and hunting.

    Just flew back from one yesterday with a heap of forum members.
    When you get asked if your ammo is in original packaging you always say yes.

    You are allowed 5kgs in your checkin luggage on both international and national flights.
    After all. What is original packaging for ammunition you constructed yourself?






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    OK so the original op is national flights.
    Just a heads up on international and different airports.
    It doesn't matter what your airline states. If the ground staff are not happy then it's not going on even if you are complying with everything that the airline states.
    I did this when flying with Emirates to NZ. They where really good. They had all my forms printed and waiting for me on arrival at Heathrow.
    But the ground staff, that is the secrurity had not a clue! Just to be clear that is not emirates staff but BAA ground staff. When exraying the two rifles I heard one say oh but we can't see that it's not loaded Another wanted to put the ammo on by it's self. Even though the airline states that it needs to be in a locked box and packed securely in your main hold bag.
    I got there in the end. And both rifles our now back on NZ soil. On the way back Emirates even had all the paper work ready for the return trip can't get better than that when I did not even tell them that it was a one way trip for the rifles.

    I suspect that this is the issue that you will start to face and see. I have read of people flying down to the South Island and then not being able to fly back with there ammo. Even though there ammo boxs have not changed from the original flight out.
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    I think I would keep any factory boxes just for travelling on a plane they wont know the difference between reloads or factory .mate used to bring his down from Jaffa town every year no problems even with ammo just security gone mad I mean you cant access most luggage in an aircraft hold while flying , only on the smaller ones like atr's .

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    When the NZ IPSC pistol team went to France many of them used saved factory boxes for their reloads.

    I also heard some just printed their own labels and stuck them on MTM plastic boxes.

    Never heard of anyone having a problem.
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    That printing is a good idea maybe the way forward. Might try that
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    This is from air NZ’s website
    https://www.airnewzealand.com/dangerous-goods#firearms
    Print it and take it with you or domestictly have the link on your phone
    Those are air nz rules show you can show the staff
    Used to work for air nz years ago - regional staff often know more than the big centres as they do more jobs

    Firearms and ammunition

    Taking firearms into or out of a country

    Most countries have firearms and ammunition clearance requirements that you must apply for before you leave home. They are usually required when you leave and enter each country.

    All firearms must be carried in a lockable case suitable for air carriage, for example a suitcase, box or container that is designed to prevent access. For firearms carried to or from the USA or UK, the firearm case must be hard sided and locked.

    For more information on bringing firearms and ammunition into New Zealand and/or leaving with them, see the New Zealand Police website.

    Airline safety requirements

    Ammunition must be securely packed in division 1.4S (UN0012 or UN0014) and must not exceed 5kg gross weight.

    Prohibited

    Any firearm or ammunition that does not have the legally required import/export permit or other documentation required under your departing and destination countries' laws
    Ammunition must not be carried in the same checked baggage as a firearm
    Approval required

    You must notify us of your intention to carry a firearm and/or ammunition as soon as possible after you have obtained any required permits
    When travelling to the United Kingdom, you must notify us at least two weeks before your date of departure, so we can seek approval to carry your firearm on your behalf
    At the time of booking Air New Zealand must be advised whenever ammunition or firearms are to be carried

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    For the international traveler going through the UK just remember it's not the airline staff at the check in that you will have trouble with!
    It the baggage security services. If one says no then it is no. You don't get no high up. On top of that every airport is different and every shift as well.
    I've heard of guys coming back from Scotland and finding there guns out on the street with the rest of the over sized luggage

    I mean if your AO doesn't even know the laws, rules are you expecting security to.....come they wave a wand for a living
    It's all fun and games till Darthvader comes along

 

 

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