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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus_A View Post
    Taken from the Firearm Owners United NZ facebook pages' update on the issue
    I HAVE HAD PARTS SEIZED AT CUSTOMS - WHAT CAN I DO?
    "We recommend contacting a lawyer. At this stage we can confirm Richard Lincoln's firm has started legal representation for importers. Nick Taylor is rumored to be involved with an importer too. Richard can be contacted on 021 152 5527 and Nick on 021 362 123. By joining an existing legal action costs can be shared. We recommend anyone who is affected by this new policy to get in touch with one of these lawyers."

    Not affected but i'll be ringing both to ask if they're taking contributions after work tomorrow.
    Hold up, we're going to have the same conversation with them and let the community know where to next.

    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I would rather donate to a fund set up by colfo or founds specifically to fight this than ring up a lawyer and ask if I can give him some money.
    I can't in good faith recommend giving funds to COLFO for this issue.
    COLFO are sitting on 200k of funds already, if they were going to fund this they would have during my gas block issue 8 months ago here:
    https://www.facebook.com/firearmowne...65547177117866

    Where they said to me:

    "Please approach Nick (Taylor) and outline the situation, if you decide to take legal action this will be on your own account."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gqhoon View Post
    The feedback I received from FOUNZ on this, was to sit tight for the time being. Discussions are being had with lawyers. If they proceed down the legal path, then they will post on it publicly. There is hope for government intervention which would avoid this need.
    You're mostly right based off what I messaged you on facebook.
    However proceedings are in place, but we don't want to collect people's money if they back down and if we do set up donations, we want it to be done right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    I'm sure they will. But someone needs to pay, maybe we should all consider going in together. I doubt they have any chance of winning.
    Maybe time for soneone to start making AR15s domestically - a now captive market. This may in turn encourage Colt to sue NZ Customs.

    Anyone have a list of domestic manufacturers of AR15 bits and who makes what?
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    Gun Supplies in Rotorua are making uppers and lowers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    Gun Supplies in Rotorua are making uppers and lowers
    Yeah I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft barge pole. I had a pistol made by them that was a 7k lump of shit and their warranty wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Yeah I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft barge pole. I had a pistol made by them that was a 7k lump of shit and their warranty wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

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    After the public consultation meeting in ChCh, I wrote that Mike Mcilraith had said emphatically 4 or 5 times " the Arms Act is not being changed" and I wrote that he had said that "they are in the process of rewriting policy right now" This is some of the rewritten policy, all thanks to Stuart Nash and Police! The next policy change they will try to roll out will be something along the lines that if you own any firearm or part of a firearm that can be used to make a MSSA, then that will be classed as E Cat and you will require an E Cat endorsement to own it. The devils in the detail boys, the devils in the detail and they're coming for us!
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    I don't see the reason behind banning accessories, things like handguards, triggers etc are parts that are 100% useless by themselves and criminals/gang members are hardly going to spend $1000s on pimping out their AR 15s.

    Its especially stupid when there are a heap of other firearms (mostly all bolt actions) the make use of these same accessories.

    Seems the Police are hell bent on getting the firearm community to hate them. I just hope decisions like this come back to bite them and they come crawling back asking for forgiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetroot View Post
    I just hope decisions like this come back to bite them and they come crawling back asking for forgiveness.
    I cant see that ever happening.
    They dont need us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I cant see that ever happening.
    They dont need us.

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    Really?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
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    Really?!?
    What exactly do they need us for then?
    I am sure they would be most happy if only themselves and criminals had firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I cant see that ever happening.
    They dont need us.

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    I agree, but I do hope one day they do and we can tell them to shove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    What exactly do they need us for then?
    I am sure they would be most happy if only themselves and criminals had firearms.

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    Try a google search like police appeal for help .nz

    But maybe @systolic can explain to us in what ways NZ Police relies on the help of the public when the public is not legally obliged to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husky1600 View Post
    After the public consultation meeting in ChCh, I wrote that Mike Mcilraith had said emphatically 4 or 5 times " the Arms Act is not being changed" and I wrote that he had said that "they are in the process of rewriting policy right now" This is some of the rewritten policy, all thanks to Stuart Nash and Police! The next policy change they will try to roll out will be something along the lines that if you own any firearm or part of a firearm that can be used to make a MSSA, then that will be classed as E Cat and you will require an E Cat endorsement to own it. The devils in the detail boys, the devils in the detail and they're coming for us!
    i was there too. (i was the one that said get your kids into guns, they will never afford drugs)
    to be honest he was ok. the issue is cahill , the lefty government and pathetic sentences given for firearms violaions
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonetropo View Post
    i was there too. (i was the one that said get your kids into guns, they will never afford drugs)
    to be honest he was ok. the issue is cahill , the lefty government and pathetic sentences given for firearms violaions
    Cahill isn't able to make the police policy changes though?

 

 

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