Thread: Media Firearms beat-up continues

Originally Posted by Moutere

Australia still has regular shootings, their approach has had fuck all impact on gun crime. Regardless of type of firearm.

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in New Zealand?

Originally Posted by Beavis

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in New Zealand?

February 1997 6 dead and 4 wounded
December 2001 3 dead
They may not be on the scale of Port Arthur, but still listed as mass killings.

Originally Posted by Natatale

February 1997 6 dead and 4 wounded
December 2001 3 dead
They may not be on the scale of Port Arthur, but still listed as mass killings.

So a semi automatic rifle was used in neither of those incidents, and there have been no "mass" shootings in 14 odd years. Yip ban semi autos, we have a problem.

February 1997 - Stephen Anderson - history of mental illness.
December 2001 - William Bell - after a night consuming alcohol and drugs.

The firearms are not the problem.

Originally Posted by Rushy

February 1997 - Stephen Anderson - history of mental illness.
December 2001 - William Bell - after a night consuming alcohol and drugs.

The firearms are not the problem.

Indeed, the fact does remain that firearms are a tool, and a looney with a firearm is more dangerous than one without. This is somthing that the yanks really dont seem to get.

So you must have an element of control over who recieves the firearms, in a sliding scale for risk level. IMO controling pistol grips and stock tubes are stupid and have no bearing, but controling magazine size does. Putting bans on the look of a weapon,(AR15 vs mini 14 say) is irrelevent and only serves to sooth political pressure, it does nothing to reduce guncrime or the danger of gun crime.
For the most part our laws do a pretty reasonable job, but like everything they aren't perfect.

I think the licencing could be more practicaly based and the bar could be raised a bit higher. I know people who I wouldnt trust with a toaster and they have a FA licence.
I havnt been public land hunting for very long but have allready seen plenty of dumb shit. A few of the euro countries have seperate hunting licences, this whilst it would be a pain in the arse kinda makes sense to me

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

In my experience, I'd say there is an agravated shooting most weeks in Sydney alone.
You have quite a pesimistic view of our sport.

T

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Thank you for wanting to sacrifice other peoples firearms privileges because you feel uncomfortable about semi autos. Thankfully you are the minority. You just stated we are lucky to have the laws we have and you advocate giving them away. Sod having laws anywhere like Aussie. Joe Stalin would find them oppressive.

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Not sure about mass shooting but the other week some bloke wearing pajamers walked into the police HQ, followed someone out and then shot them with a pistol. The fact that someone can get their hands on one of the most restricted weapons in one of the tightest gun control countries makes proves that the whole thing is pointless.