Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

aint it funny if the cops were,nt doing thier utmost to investigate a civilian lawbreaker she,d be all over them.
YOU COMMITTED FRAUD AND IMPERSONATED A COP TO HIGHLIGHT A SITUATION THE COPS AREADY KNEW ABOUT?? UNDER YOUR OWN ADMISSION,\.
GAME OVER

I'd say she impersonated a cop and commited fraud for financial gain - its a business and viewer attention means advertising money.

''i stand by the journalism'' then like a good journo you should be prepared to accept the consequences

British journalists face five years in Indonesian ...

Al-Jazeera journalists sentenced to three years in...

Two journalists arrested for story on intelligence...

your not in thier class nor is your exposay but you should be prepared to show some of thier integrity.

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I'd say she impersonated a cop and commited fraud for financial gain - its a business and viewer attention means advertising money.

This is my thinking on the matter. Her job is journalism. She needs viewers to have a show and make money. She does sensational stories to get viewers. She did a story where she broke multiple laws to create a sensational story = committing a crime for financial gain.

Originally Posted by Beavis

This is my thinking on the matter. Her job is journalism. She needs viewers to have a show and make money. She does sensational stories to get viewers. She did a story where she broke multiple laws to create a sensational story = committing a crime for financial gain.

Committing a crime for financial gain, with a firearm involved being an aggravating factor

I can't believe all the support she is getting tho.
It is just wrong.

If it was anyone of us that did it.....

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Originally Posted by R93

I can't believe all the support she is getting tho.
It is just wrong.

If it was anyone of us that did it.....

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The logic implied seems to be - what she did was ok because guns.

An interesting take on was it a "loophole" by another journalist.

David Fisher: Did they prove a loophole? Or simply break the law? - Opinion - NZ Herald News

Originally Posted by stug

An interesting take on was it a "loophole" by another journalist.

David Fisher: Did they prove a loophole? Or simply break the law? - Opinion - NZ Herald News

Far out a Journo who looks at things logically... Big ups to him.

https://twitter.com/barrysoper/statu...605440/photo/1
The search warrant was issued for Forgery and Obtaining by deception, I really hope the Obtaining by deception charge sticks and gets a decent sentence.

Prison sentence possible for Heather du Plessis Allan's gun control story - National - NZ Herald News

So it turns out the police asked to speak to the staff involved, by they shut up shop and refused to be interviewed, hence the search.

Originally Posted by Tommy

So it turns out the police asked to speak to the staff involved, by they shut up shop and refused to be interviewed, hence the search.

Just to put some perspective on this. You have the right, in New Zealand, to say "I am maintaining my right to silence" when question by the Police. This applies to you, me, your mate, your mother and everyone. This is the reason we have appropriate judicial law in NZ, rather than the ad-loc random legal process in Russia, Malaysia, Thailand, USA and many other countries. Want to live in a country where the answer to a Police question comes from the end of a baton ?

Just because you may disagree with the particular circumstances doesn't dilute the process you have the option to exercise.

The posts for death, evisceration, and avoidance of a legal process we all all entitled to, is today in NZ, somewhat sickening. Simply because of an opinion people have, publicly.

Discussion is one thing, rampant mob behaviour because of the belief and obsession one is right, is quite sad.

Well, hopefully she will have a fair trial, and if she is not doing just home detention and community service, she will be able to write about the life conditions in mt Eden prison.

Just to put some perspective on this. You have the right, in New Zealand, to say "I am maintaining my right to silence" when question by the Police. This applies to you, me, your mate, your mother and everyone. This is the reason we have appropriate judicial law in NZ, rather than the ad-loc random legal process in Russia, Malaysia, Thailand, USA and many other countries. Want to live in a country where the answer to a Police question comes from the end of a baton ?

Just because you may disagree with the particular circumstances doesn't dilute the process you have the option to exercise.

The posts for death, evisceration, and avoidance of a legal process we all all entitled to, is today in NZ, somewhat sickening. Simply because of an opinion people have, publicly.

Discussion is one thing, rampant mob behaviour because of the belief and obsession one is right, is quite sad.

Thats fine, but don't cry foul when the police then exercise a search warrant to ensure they have the necessary evidence to back up a potential prosecution.
The whinging from HDPA and Soper is not justified if they refused to speak to the police, the police are entitled to search under warrant on the basis of reasonable grounds for specified items, if a crime has been committed. Its pretty clear that that is the case.

Whether the police choose to prosecute or not is a matter of discretion on their part, but they always do that with the consideration of the strength of their case in the first instance and then other considerations. It is quite pathetic to refuse to speak to the police and then claim that a search shouldn't have occurred as they would have provided the information required.... they had already refused...!!

The fact is, in spite of the media dribble about this - there was no loophole, and there was no actual problem. Despite that this circus broke the law, and as Aunty Ursula points out, there is no defence of public interest for criminal activity.

Originally Posted by Sidney

Thats fine, but don't cry foul when the police then exercise a search warrant to ensure they have the necessary evidence to back up a potential prosecution.

Oh I absolutely agree 100%.

I was merely pointing out the right to silence that everyone enjoys in NZ, and exercising that right appeared to be frowned upon.