Thread: Using the firearms register

Originally Posted by earplay

Well the good news is, by already having a realme login and a only a couple items to register - the process took all of about 10mins online. Sorted.

That works IF the firearms your registering are on their list, if not the phoning begins.

Originally Posted by tetawa

That works IF the firearms your registering are on their list, if not the phoning begins.

Yep - got lucky on that front. Can see it'd be a bit more of a headache for some.

If anyone from the FSA is reading this, a quick suggestion. Ive used the phone registry a couple of times in the last year and it takes too long to get through. But when you do get through, 65% of the time it takes to register a firearm is in listening to privacy policy and obligations.

Instead you could speed the process up by either asking if we need them read, or directing us to read them online.

Its an unnecessary cost in time for both us and you.

Originally Posted by tetawa

That works IF the firearms your registering are on their list, if not the phoning begins.

Yep, their database is sadly lacking, the ONLY Firearm I've been able to register without calling them was the Rossi 22/10. After the millions they spent setting it up, you'd think they'd have put some time into getting a reasonably exhaustive database compiled, pretty sure if they got hold of all the firearm manufacturers they'd be able to get a list of all the guns they make/have made.....hardly rocket science

Originally Posted by whanahuia

If anyone from the FSA is reading this, a quick suggestion. Ive used the phone registry a couple of times in the last year and it takes too long to get through. But when you do get through, 65% of the time it takes to register a firearm is in listening to privacy policy and obligations.

Instead you could speed the process up by either asking if we need them read, or directing us to read them online.

Its an unnecessary cost in time for both us and you.

But.....but......but that would mean "being efficient"!

Originally Posted by earplay

Well the good news is, by already having a realme login and a only a couple items to register - the process took all of about 10mins online. Sorted.

The bad news is that now to change ownership you're going to understand why I suggested letting the new owner register that firearm for the first time

Originally Posted by Zedrex

Yep, their database is sadly lacking, the ONLY Firearm I've been able to register without calling them was the Rossi 22/10. After the millions they spent setting it up, you'd think they'd have put some time into getting a reasonably exhaustive database compiled, pretty sure if they got hold of all the firearm manufacturers they'd be able to get a list of all the guns they make/have made.....hardly rocket science

They could even try asking someone who actually knows about firearms

Don't think any allowance or thought went into the caliber choices outside the very basic factory availability, no consideration to the rebarreling or chamber reaming availability of calibers.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Don't think any allowance or thought went into the caliber choices outside the very basic factory availability, no consideration to the rebarreling or chamber reaming availability of calibers.

Yup too specific. Shouldve made it way more basic, almost spreadsheet. Who cares if it's a 4 or 5 shot.
Make model action calibre and serial number in the most basic form you could do. Lee enfield No 1 mk3 303, howa 1500 308 etc. But no they had to get specific with mag capacity etc

Originally Posted by Maca49

If it’s not registered and the buyer is not registered, how would it become a triggering event?

What a curious thing to say.

Because it's the law. Just because the police dont know you are breaking the law doesn't make it legal. They will know if someone tell them, just like if someone tells on you for buying ten thousand dollars of hydroponic equipment to put in your state house. Doesnt make growing drugs legal because they havnt found your marijuana plants yet.

Originally Posted by KERR

Fawkes, that is a ridiculous analogy. The Fire Service, Ambulance and Police (mostly) always answer the phone promptly, or at least as promptly as the overload allows. They have too because they are dealing with life and death situations. No one is going to die (or maybe they will.....) if it takes 60 - 90 minutes to register a firearm.

Regarding your comment, "The problem always has been that you cant get to talk to them......" that's just drama-queening it for effect. So many people on this forum have said the opposite that it is becoming increasingly clear that FSA have upped their game and are now providing a better service. Hopefully, one day, the "Wha Wha Wha" on here will stop. Until then, here is a thought for you, "Wha Wha Wha...."

Have you actually tried phoning the police outside hours? After almost 15min of waiting for someone to answer I just hung up and thought well mate tonight was your lucky night after witnessing someone running into a car backing out and driving off.
I needed to be somewhere and didn't want to get caught for using a phone while driving

Has anyone registered a rifle built on a BAT Machine action?

The reason I ask is because I went to register a rifle tonight built on a BAT SV action and when I selected "Bat Machine" and "SV" it bought up a few different calibres, none were the same as mine, but the concerning thing is it lists the BAT SV as a "break action"!!!!!!!!! Huh??

I'm stumped I would have thought a bolt action would be listed as a bolt action have the firearms authority got a different description for "bolt action" actions?

Originally Posted by 19Badger

Has anyone registered a rifle built on a BAT Machine action?

The reason I ask is because I went to register a rifle tonight built on a BAT SV action and when I selected "Bat Machine" and "SV" it bought up a few different calibres, none were the same as mine, but the concerning thing is it lists the BAT SV as a "break action"!!!!!!!!! Huh??

I'm stumped I would have thought a bolt action would be listed as a bolt action have the firearms authority got a different description for "bolt action" actions?

A lot of the Lee Enfield models are the same - listed as a break action even the single shot converted .22 bolt action trainers. Very weird - and I was wondering if it was just someone selecting the nearest most right looking description line and not realising that the "break action" bit was completely wrong???

Originally Posted by No.3

A lot of the Lee Enfield models are the same - listed as a break action even the single shot converted .22 bolt action trainers. Very weird - and I was wondering if it was just someone selecting the nearest most right looking description line and not realising that the "break action" bit was completely wrong???

It makes you wonder what the registry is useful for if the descriptions aren't accurate, there is a big fundamental difference between a break action and a bolt action

Originally Posted by 19Badger

It makes you wonder what the registry is useful for if the descriptions aren't accurate, there is a big fundamental difference between a break action and a bolt action

As I've mentioned previously when I have to register mine later this year it will be interesting, not many standard factory rifles with saami chamberings

They all will be registered as what they actually are with the correct make, model, action type & cartridge otherwise what is the actual point of the register......

If it ever goes sideways for what ever reason, "this bolt action firearm is not a break open action, so where is the break open action firearm you registered Sir ?" is not a conversation I want to have in the future, especially being a Dealer