Thread: Long range kill damage

Originally Posted by Tussock

One of the issues with hunters and terminal ballistics is the small sample size. You need thousands of animals per projectile. For each angle of impact, and each impact velocity and each point of impact you need an example. Thats thousands and thousands of combinations of variables.

I aggree in part. Certainly need a decent sample but thousands? Id shot around 15 deer with a projectile I wont name or use again and thought they were the ducks nuts. No 16 was two blow ups without penitrating the vitals. I dont need to shoot another 984 with them to know they dont suit my use of them.
I run a short and long range(for a 308) load. Iv found my minnimum range for the long load that gives terminal results I like. Max distance with the short load hasent really been tested yet but it has been tested past my min for the long load and still works well

Did that one drop on the spot?

Yes shot 3 at around 600m that weekend, not one took a step.

Toby, you seem very interested in dropping them on the spot. Hitting the spine or shocking the spine is is usually what causes this so head/neck/ high lung shots are most likely to do it. Hopefully your chosen projectile and placement causes enough damage to make them bleed out before the central nervous system recovers if it hasent been destroyed.

I agree with vetnamcam, the deer in my pic above and the others shot that weekend had the spine pulverised by shock even tho all the shots were at least 4" below. I wouldn't be to concerned if they take a few steps before falling over.

Yeah, lets be honest here, When you pull that trigger nothing feels better then watching it drop on the spot.

And nothing worse than when it gets up and runs shortly after!

I guess thats whats good about the big cannons, even if the shot placement is poor it usually does enough damage to stop them going anywhere.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

And nothing worse than when it gets up and runs shortly after!

It's called .338 jokes, yeah I hate that. Do you wait a little bit just in case?

Originally Posted by L.R

I guess thats whats good about the big cannons, even if the shot placement is poor it usually does enough damage to stop them going anywhere.

That was pretty much my point on the thread about using a .223 on deer, a bigger calibre gives you that much more margin for error.

Originally Posted by L.R

I agree with vetnamcam, the deer in my pic above and the others shot that weekend had the spine pulverised by shock even tho all the shots were at least 4" below. I wouldn't be to concerned if they take a few steps before falling over.

Always a nice feeling when they go down quick.

Were they with the 300 OTM or Gen I ?

What is the twist rate 1-9 or 1-10 ?

GenI 9 twist.

Originally Posted by Toby

It's called .338 jokes, yeah I hate that. Do you wait a little bit just in case?

If im not 100% certain where it landed il watch it threw the scope, If you aimed at the neck and its lifting its head or waving it round youd better get there quick or give it another.

Bull Tahr @ 820m. Impact velocity 2,340fps. 300gr SMK. Broke both shoulders, projectile came to rest under skin on off side. Entry side first, then exit.


I'll let you decide if it dropped on the spot... tahr at 820m (med).m4v - YouTube

I have another photo of an exit wound on a nannie @ 650m but its not pretty so I'm not putting it up...

Originally Posted by L.R

GenI 9 twist.

Thanks thats what I was hoping you would say, seen that a few times, not sure if the OTM is quite so aggressive at lower muzzle velocities.