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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Thats bullshit. We always suspected the reason they werent behind deer repellant was because they didnt mind deer being by-kills but to actually target them with a poison they know kills deer terribly slowly is just criminal. The SPCA just charged that trapper for using the wrong sized traps, they should step up on this.
    In the Dom Post today

    Possum Trapper was convicted and fined $300 plus $353 costs for using illegal leg hold traps.

    Judge Hastings said despite possums being a pest there was still the obligation to treat them humanely......

    Well what do you think of that then????.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribe View Post
    In the Dom Post today

    Possum Trapper was convicted and fined $300 plus $353 costs for using illegal leg hold traps.

    Judge Hastings said despite possums being a pest there was still the obligation to treat them humanely......

    Well what do you think of that then????.
    Prime example of double standards WE are not allowed to use any form of possum trap that is deemed cruel but yet certain departments are allowed to inflict even more inhumane forms of pain to an animal through poisoning and get away with it. HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter308 View Post
    Prime example of double standards WE are not allowed to use any form of possum trap that is deemed cruel but yet certain departments are allowed to inflict even more inhumane forms of pain to an animal through poisoning and get away with it. HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "They" can get away with using all sorts of inhumane methods......sticky traps for rats mice is but one. Illegal for us tho
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    Could we work with, and support the Graf boys who have already walked a fair way down this path ????

    Perhaps they would like to contribute to this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribe View Post
    In the Dom Post today

    Possum Trapper was convicted and fined $300 plus $353 costs for using illegal leg hold traps.

    Judge Hastings said despite possums being a pest there was still the obligation to treat them humanely......

    Well what do you think of that then????.
    Too right Scribe, there is no equity in this situation at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribe View Post
    In the Dom Post today

    Possum Trapper was convicted and fined $300 plus $353 costs for using illegal leg hold traps.

    Judge Hastings said despite possums being a pest there was still the obligation to treat them humanely......

    Well what do you think of that then????.
    Was up next to it today and got a big fat cat that did a huge dance and just about pulled out 2 big wire stakes. Luckily I had the trap tied down as well.There were some nice animals in there and I used to glass them quite often.They are going to hammer it again within 4 years. Nice perky job for the chopper.

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    Give that stuff straight to the media!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckshot View Post
    Give that stuff straight to the media!
    We have been feeding this stuff to the media for years...They just wont touch it.

    Doesnt matter whether it is baits in peoples water supplys...Cows poisoned drinking out of the local streams or what.

    Google.... "SPCA Horrified 1080 Still Killing Deer"...and you will see more on the subject but not one newspaper has picked up on it. The Govt has got a hold on them alright...

    The TV agencies have told us outright that they wont risk their "TV On Air" money they get from the Govt showing anything like this.

    Hell though if this was all about a little piglet in a Farmers pen they would be climbing all over it.
    Last edited by Scribe; 06-08-2012 at 04:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribe View Post
    We have been feeding this stuff to the media for years...They just wont touch it.

    Doesnt matter whether it is baits in peoples water supplys...Cows poisoned drinking out of the local streams or what.

    Google.... "SPCA Horrified 1080 Still Killing Deer"...and you will see more on the subject but not one newspaper has picked up on it. The Govt has got a hold on them alright...

    The TV agencies have told us outright that they wont risk their "TV On Air" money they get from the Govt showing anything like this.

    Hell though if this was all about a little piglet in a Farmers pen they would be climbing all over it.
    10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltoro View Post
    10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.
    Hunters are there own worst enemy. We had a fairly successful anti 1080 march in Whitianga a few years ago. But there was hardly a figure at the march from the group most affected by 1080 drops in the Coromandel (the pig hunters) I bailed a few of them over the weeks and asked the where they were...They nearly all said..Aw we thought everybody would be at the march so we went and poached such and suchs block or the pines or some other bloody place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltoro View Post
    10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.
    I'd walk that mile down Queen Street to add voice to this issue. Maybe someone on this forum has some experience organising such a demonstration of civil dischord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    I'd walk that mile down Queen Street to add voice to this issue. Maybe someone on this forum has some experience organising such a demonstration of civil dischord.
    It hasnt worked in Auckland in the past. We had a march in Auckland after the Rangitoto/Motutapu brodifacoum drop in 2009 that killed so many seabirds, fish, and marine mammals. It was embarrassing how few turned up.

    99% of Aucklanders are so divorced from their roots in the Country that they really wouldnt know a native bird if they saw one nor do they have any interest at all in poisons or where they are being dropped.

    It is better if we continue the way we are. Local groups all doing their own thing and all putting pressure on the Government all in their own ways.

    Thames Landcare ran a petition here on the Coromandel and had it presented to Parliment along with the West Coasters ...The Then we all appeared before a Parlimentry Select Committee... That trimmed DOC/AHBs feathers for them.

    Join a group ...The fastest growing group in New Zealand ..F.A.T.E... Farmers against ten eighty.

    The most effective protest still, is all you farmers and town folk put up a dirty big sign on the roadside saying what you think of 1080 The proliferation of all the roadside signs on the West Coast is causing all our tourists to pay real attention to whats going on.

    My sign on the Thames Coromandel Highway says,,,,
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    NOT THE WHOLE DAMNED ECOSYSTEM.
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    More news just in...The Mayor of Taupo...Rick Cooper... Has offered to pay to have the samples taken from these deer tested for 1080 poisoning if DOC/AHB dispute the fact that it was their 1080 drop that caused these deer to die in such a cruel fashion.

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    What about trying to apeal to peter dunn? after all he was behind deer stalkers standing up against the waro issue!.That was a case of House member vs DOC wasnt it? or am i wrong on that.

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    How would it go if large roadside billboards were produced depicting photos such as those above in this thread of the heamorhaging suffered by the deer before they die, and placed around the country, especially on popular tourist routes (probably have to be placed on concenting farmland or such) to bring pressure on the government by bringing this horror to the attention of one of the big income earners for New Zealand. In a similar way that the Drink Driving or Speeding billboards bring attention to road deaths. Or the graphic pictures on the backs of cigarette packets bring attention to cancer caused by smoking.
    This may overcome the medias lack of willingness to get involved in 1080 matters.

 

 

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