I think there will still be a registration in some form, we have signed something with the un regarding small arms trade or something along those lines. Id like to see what it is in its final form first...
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I think there will still be a registration in some form, we have signed something with the un regarding small arms trade or something along those lines. Id like to see what it is in its final form first...
He won’t with Mark Mitchell’s view of usQuote:
Originally Posted by Lauries Hut
The feeling is mutual:cool:
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Originally Posted by akaroa1
Sounds like they got a lot further than first base, you should be walking funny.
My partner had the same issue, they did get in contact with her. Apparently a known issue and they had to fix something their end, then she had to use Google chrome to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
Yeah mate i did. Got a new gat from Reloaders and FSA was onto me before i left the shop, 'Trigger event' email was in the inboxQuote:
Originally Posted by BSA
That's called shit house programming. I did better than that in uniQuote:
Originally Posted by Makros
I had the same problem. I called and tried to resolve the problem and initially they didn’t know what to do (I think I described this in more detail earlier in this thread.) 2 weeks later I got a phone call to tell me I need to use a different browser when creating my account/logon. Changing browser eventually worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
So far I have registered 12 items, which took an hour on the phone. The person on the other end is not likely to be knowledgeable about makes and models but will take your advice on finding the right information. They also have the ability to modify and make new entries in the system based on your advice so don’t feel obliged to stick with the options that they have if you think it’s wrong.
Wow one hour! Glad I got my new rifle before registration came in. Sad because I want a nicer shotgun for clays but it's going to have waitQuote:
Originally Posted by -BW-
I just tried to use realme. What a wank fest Fuck that for a joke.
Once you've got it set up it does save time as it takes out a lot of the login fuck arounds on other govt websites. Except for MyIRD which is another level of FUBAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
I can’t remember when I set it up but was certainly more than a decade ago. Can’t remember my username or password but have tried the obvious. Not going to ring them to sort it out as I don’t need to use the register yet and by the time I do need to use it I would have forgotten again (one of the benefits of old age is that password security is improved by forgetfulness). Also I don’t see any reason to ever use government websites, they have nothing I need nor want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
That's the truth - I had to get hold of IRD for a one-off query (normally this is an accountant job but the query was related to Kiwisaver contribution status of a past employer so the poor old accountant couldn't sort that one). Rang them up - got cut off three times. On the fourth it told me I had to book a callback and the three options for times weren't suitable spaced out over the next 14 days. So I tried to email them - they've stopped accepting emails for some reason (I think they were quoting something about security or some other bullshit). Went looking for other options - only other one is MyIRD which I'm not signed up for and it's no point going through that much work for one request for info that actually isn't my issue to sort. So I did the sensible thing, bloody ignored it and if IRD cares enough they can get hold of my past employer and ask them why they stopped paying into my Kiwisaver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
What a complete clusterfluck of epic proportions, I feel for the poor bastards that get trapped in the Working For Families debt issues as you literally cannot get hold of the fools to sort things on a timely basis. If your income changes week by week and it takes 14 days to get hold of the fools how the hell do you work that out? Regular monthly scheduled contacts to pass the info through? Do better IRD!
So they tell me that the firearms renewal I have in a couple of years or so can be done now and they are encouraging me to do it as the price will go up and what they are doing is extending the expiry dates so in effect I'll renew and get a 12 year licence or however it works out (might be 13 years but I'm not entertaining that haha). It's now a question of which is going to be cheaper - early renewal and get in before the licensing fees go up, or wait and deal with the time it's going to take fighting the registration system as I can see many hours on the phone with Wellington.
I wouldnt be renewing until yours is nearly expired - like 6 months out.
Cant believe the number of folk doing the rego thing before they are forced to .
But it will make them safer !Quote:
Originally Posted by sportco62
It gets worse! It turns out that an efficient member of my household was able to tell me my username and password (which I had correct except for upper vs lower case characters). So I just used the correct username and password and fuck me dead the RealMe website now wants me to call them to “add a second-factor authentication”. When did the world become so fucked up?Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
At any given point in time, if you are a government agency, talking to me on the telephone, I can give you much information issued by the NZ government that in combination is extremely likely to only be known by me (e.g. my unique drivers license number, my unique firearms license number, my IRD number, my unique passport number, my unique military service number ad infinitum (superannuation, veterans affairs etc) so why the fuck can you not trust that it is me when you are talking to me particularly when the reason for the phone call is for me to provide you with information that you want to record which is known only to me. For fuck sake this is so screwed up.
Been signed up to myIRD for years. Use it to prepare my tax return prior to sending to accountant to finalise. What I do myself helps to reduce the accountant's fees for my tax return. And also to check that IRD figures agree with mine. Sometimes they are out but usually only by cents. Don't trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
Had a query re overseas income a month ago. Submitted query thru MyIRD and got a reply within their advised 14 days Totally painless. Original sign up was simple, I'll hazard at a guess, easier than RealMe. I could see however that if people haven't got great computer skills their systems would be shite.
The surprising thing to me, when I first signed up to MyIRD is how much detail they have of your income. One of my bank accounts which only earns a few cent interest a year. It was all there. Banks of course are required to submit that info monthly.
Also have had a RealMe login for over 20 years. Part of my trade rego. Use it to also access my pension details. Also painless to access.
No, I'm not about to rush in to register my firearms.
I have to use the IRD site all the time for GST and stuff. Once you get your head around it, its quite easy to use. I never talk to anyone from the IRD. My accountant does that for me at tax time. Think he has a direct line to them as he has literally picked up the phone in my presence and rung them and got an answer instantly.
Lots of people reporting the same issue though. Register is a pig to use
2-Factor Authentication is a pretty common thing. This is the security side of things so randos can't just get your Username/Password that you saved on your PC/Phone or uplifted from a piece of paper you wrote it down on. You not being able to remember your username/password or not being able to set up 2FA is not a failure of the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Agreed but needing to have a RealMe username and password and 2FA certainly is a failure of the system in my view when there are so many other government issued ways to verify who I am. I am sure we will not agree on that bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
Your FAL# or Drivers Licence# are not secure info at all. They are physical items that I'm assuming are in your wallet. So now someone who has nicked your wallet has those details and can ring up the FSA and say they are you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
2FA is one of the best and easiest ways to secure stuff. Yes it can be spoofed this day and age but that's beyond the realm of randos who have got your username/account.
What a crock of crap Coop, my wallet has not been stolen and even if it had been and the offender then rang the FSA making out that they are me what are they likely to learn given that I have not registered my firearms. It is the combination of the knowledge of those two license numbers plus my passport number (now the offender has to break into my house and successfully get into the correct safe out of seven in the house) and my military service number (now the offender has to hack into Defence Force records or read my mind) that affords the ability to prove who I am that I suggested in my post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
2 factor what crap if my phone got stolen and they got my realme the 2 factor in most cases is a cell number for a texted code. Bam they have everything they need.
Is your phone not locked? You can also remotely brick your phone in about a minute if you know it's been stolen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
Mines always locked but I don't carry it 24-7 so it could get stolen and I might not know straight away. Lots of us older folks are like that
It's good that you lock it. It's pretty hard to get into a locked phone. I'm being unironic here too. I'm lazy and my phone is unlocked a lot of the time but it's usually on my person at all times as I'm a stupid millennial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
As a web developer 2FA does remove over 99 percent of attempted account hacks. Most hacks are done automatically using bots and they just look for low hanging fruit while checking a bunch of login combinations and ignore any that come up with a 2FA, The registry itself will most likely be compromised before a single users credentials and 2fa are spoofed. Simply because the effort involved for a single users gun ownership details isn't worth the effort. The best thing you can do is use non identifiable information in your passwords and have them 10+ characters long. And never reuse passwords from your other accounts.
It’s like buying a bottle of wine from Countdown, er Woolworths or whatever, why can’t I just show my Winnie Card, a 74 yr old in an 18 yr old body, with grey hair and cranky, it drives me nutsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
You can just thank your lucky stars that you do not have to deal with Government departments that we are forced to communicate with: District Councils, Regional councils, MBIE, MPI, IRD. They all have fucked up systems that do not operate as advertised:omg::omg::omg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
We do the same - that's the royal we as in my wife sorts all that and generally it's complete and accurate no errors. Still a circa $650 rubber stamping exercise every year though, but at least I don't need MyIRD... I just have to ensure all the receipts are flagged and entered each month and income confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
How can your wife view your IRD affairs?
Got you worried has he ?Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Wives have a special 6th sense and they can see through solid steel gun safe walls !Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Nah, after 50 odd years of marriage I'm either immune or to dumb to realise.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
Co-director, so getting everything sorted with the accounts kind of leads into everything being sorted with the IRD. Even when I was employed, joint banking so she sees 'everything'... Once the accounts are ready and balanced and GST sorted, there's only vehicle claims left to process in and once that's done the IRD stuff is pretty much straightforward. There might be a slight adjustment, but when you're in a simple LLC arrangement it's very basic. What it does mean is that the company and the wife get the email confirmation by IRD, mine follows up a couple of days later on a thin piece of tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
I work in IT security, not having 2FA would be seen as a joke in my community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
It does make me laugh when I'm accessing things off my android device, have to use 2FA and then copy and paste the resulting code over. It kind of strikes me as a 'secure but not really any better than a password' attempt.
Jeez my 2 year old grand daughter can unlock my phone. Not sure how she does it but she does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
She has seen you do it plenty of times [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by zeropak
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Apparently 10,000 people signed up to the register - at that rate about 6 years to do everyone. About a year and a half past the deadline!