so I just bought a "registered" rifle off a fella, does he need to take it off his name before i can put it on my name? Do I get a notification of something saying that he has done so?
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so I just bought a "registered" rifle off a fella, does he need to take it off his name before i can put it on my name? Do I get a notification of something saying that he has done so?
Yes. He should ring the register first to notify he has sold it. He will give them your name and license number. That will list the transfer as ‘pending’ on the system. Then you complete the transfer by notifying them of the of purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewbieZAR
The only ambiguous part of this process, is if the seller does not do their part first, and the buyer gets left in the dark waiting for notification.
If they don’t contact you within a week or so, ring them instead.
It sounds more and more onerous…Quote:
Originally Posted by -BW-
You got that right. They should have designed the system so that buyer or seller could initiate the transfer without the unnecessary complexity. I've done 8 transfers now, 7 as seller and 1 as buyer. I still don't know which ones have been completed unless I call and ask for an update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finnwolf
Well I bit the bullet and registered all my shit yesterday , I had to ring them twice for advice as I had a few oddball things not in there system , both ladies were very helpful actually and changed things for me over the phone , you do need to go to the Police station after you submitted it to get verified though so you can get access to what you have registered online , that I was not aware of , otherwise once you press submit you can not see you own info ..
What they don’t have email? Sorry I’ve not read all 38 pages of this…..and I’ll not give them any ideas from the uk shit it’s a bloody mess here. I’ve kept every email and post that they have sent to me…have it’s own folder…it’s saved my ass I’d advise all to do the same….because they will blame you eh cause there never wrong:ORLY:Quote:
Originally Posted by -BW-
I moved house and completed the change of address form back in July, just got an email today (nearly 5 months later) acknowledging my form and reminding me to register my firearms, which I have already done.
Decided to check my submissions, there is no record of the shotgun that I had to ring up about because they didn’t have that make and model in their database.
Tried to do it online today, but when you select the manufacturer to do a search on the only option that comes up is not even that manufacturer.
Now I will have to make another phone call. I will be making a submission when the government has their inquiry into how the registry has improved safety, not.
My experience, so far, has been some positive, and some very negative.
I had to bite the bullet because of an ‘activating event’.
Knowing that a lot of my “stuff” would not (anecdotally) be presented in their drop-down lists, I elected to register by phone.
First cab off the rank at 8:30 one lovely morning with an almost immediate answer of my call. That’s a good start.
As a collector, you’d better believe it if I say I’ve got a lot of “interesting” stuff!
As we make way through my list, it became abundantly clear that whoever designed the system had not taken the time (ANY time) to sit down with any member/s of the firearm fraternity and input known makes, models etc., etc. into the database. A failure that has led to so much confusion and frustration. And, I suspect, a lot of erroneous entries.
Did I say I had a lot of stuff?
My ‘phone call ended five hours and one minute later. ONE ‘phone call!
So far, so good.
But, there’s also another side to my experience.
More recently I was required to transfer an “endorsed” item to my inventory.
Another ‘phone call.
The respondent to my call went through the preamble BS and then it was down to business.
Type of ‘arm – confirmed. Make – confirmed. Model – confirmed. Serial number – ah, NO. We’ve got a different number here. Oh, really. I tendered the serial number again. Ummm, can you send us a photo. No, I will not send you a photo.
Are there any other numbers on the ‘arm. No, there are not!
I then ask if registry has a copy of the permit to possess. Yes, they have.
I now state that the PTA had the details of the ‘arm verified (actually sighted) by the local AO who duly signed the form as having verified those details.
How has it come to pass that a minion within the oh-so-wonderful registry has entered a serial number that was nothing remotely like the actual?
A further ten-minute pause in the ‘phone call while they consulted with an AO. The outcome – they (I suspect, begrudgingly) accepted that the documented serial number must be correct and that they will accept it as such.
Sure does fill me with confidence. NOT.
OK i cant be arsed looking back thru 37 pages to find an answer .....have just registered as i have bought something and the force compels me to ......
tried to register my existing tools but none of them will be accepted , they all come up when looking at make /model etc but wont accept serials apperntly they are invalid? they look pretty valid to me ....havent tried the tool i just bought yet as it went striaight in the safe last night and havent had a chance to look at it
You need to do the initial search for your type of firearm, but don’t put in the serial number. Then go back up and push the blue button. Then select the type of firearm it suggests, then you will be able to out in serial number.
I have just this morning registered all of the firearms in my possession as I have applied for a permit to possess and knew that was going to be an activating circumstance so decided to bite the bullet and I had my youngest home so she could help an old technophobe. Initially I couldn’t get in because RealMe needed some second level of authentication that wasn’t available so I had to call them to fix that up. Then there were five firearms among what I have that I was not initially able to register. Four (all the same type of single action revolver) were because the model was not found when I entered the manufacturer (make) and one (a side by side 12guage) was because the (Spanish) manufacturer was not in the system at all. So I had to call the registry and get them to help. The four revolvers were sorted pretty quickly and I was able to get them registered while the fellah was resolving the shotgun. In the end he created the manufacturer in the system and registered the shotgun for me. In summary it took quite a while and there was a degree of faffing about but we got there in the end. I would add that if my daughter was not here I would have become very frustrated and likely would have given up at the RealMe hiccup stage.
Pardon my ignorance... but wouldn't your revolvers already be recorded on the b-cat system?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Why would you need to re-register them?
Surely that will only confuse them more than they already are.....
Endorsed firearms are a separate system/database. When you register your firearms you must do all of them, endorsed and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
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Originally Posted by Coop
That seems a bit naff, ,talk about duplication…
Great - not only have we got a new clusterfluck sorry I mean registry we are still persisting with the old ones for endorsed firearms which we suspect on public comments are at best 80% or so accurate? Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
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Originally Posted by Finnwolf
Eh. To be honest I'd rather they do it the way they've done rather than copy-paste in the endorsed data which has a lot of mistakes on it. This way it's on the FAL holder to get correct and also theoretically can pick up any mistakes as it goes and fix them. Hopefully would be more accurate that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
One of the issues with that theory is the number of people that tried to correct the B, C and E lists and it was never done. I remain and hope to be pleasantly stunned, but I'm not holding my breath on it look at it that way. And to be fair that's not anti-firearms-regulator staff that's years of experience of trying to fix Govt department database accuracy as the poor bastard using (and in some cases paying) for the 'service' to be correct and accurate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
Accuracy doesn’t seem to be as important as getting the numbers up, based a on a recent report from a friend who just had to register 150 firearms he has become a verified user to check the accuracy , after I warned him about the mistakes in my relatively paltry number when I registered
He had a cursory check and found 22 duplicates and is going to now doing a deeper dive to see how many serial numbers are incorrect make models etc.
Thats was my whole point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coop
Endorsed are already registered.
Registering them again is only going to cause problems with 2 separate systems.
Cant see their logic in any sense....
A Friend of mine has just done 97 registrations, and when he rechecked he still has 97 in the system, except about 25 are missing,Quote:
Originally Posted by Surat
replaced by duplicates of his other entries.
Haven't done the registration exercise yet. Having done a Police mail order form for ammunition I contacted FSA to check whether this was an activating circumstance for registration. Did so because of all the conflicting statements made regarding this matter. Was pleasantly surprised when referred to Arms Officer and he stated " no, this is not an activating circumstance to trigger registration". I repeated the question to him and he again confirmed this was the case. So not in a big rush to go through the process yet though I know I'll have to do it sometime. overall it was quite a pleasant interaction with both the initial receptionist and the AO. Both were quite happy to answer a few questions, very helpfull. Registration system, still not confident about it.
Most if not all modern cellphones have a recording function to record phone conversations. Be wise to have this function running while on the phone with the registry office and/or AO officers, your lawyer will thank you.
Sooooo, i have an up coming activating event...I have to buy a shotty for my son, as you do. If fact I have found one, but holding off picking it up until the RealMe thing is finalized. I applied about two weeks ago. Obviously this is a factor that will delay being able to register my firearms. How long are Realme approvals taking?
Mine took just over 4 weeks .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dama dama
Mine was about 4 minutes but that was back in June.
You shouldn't have to do the verified one that needs your address I'm pretty sure. It should be easy to do just online.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dama dama
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Originally Posted by johnv308
That's great since they only give you 30 days to register. If it's an unplanned purchase you're pushing it uphill.
Im with coop...almost certain you don't need a verified realme to register....just a normal realme will do.
Soooo @Dama dama just go ahead and buy your sons shotty [emoji106]
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Yep the verified is only if you want to check what you have registered afterwards.
Ha, so you want the address verified version then so you can check!!!
Was making enquiries with FSA today about other matters and again asked the question whether on-line ammunition purchaces using Police order form was an activating event and was again told "no it is not". I did record this conversation for future referance. And Three O'Three, IPhones do not allow recording of phone conversations, it's part of their security function.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
Yes, that is the case at the moment, but there is a date beyond which ammunition purchases, which will then include mail-order purchases as well as the in-store variety, it will be a requirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
As with the registration of firearms, there is a date beyond which it must be done - the activating event will be the end date of the grace period. Unless, of course, the legislation is repealed. We live in hope :)
I can’t wait to see how it will stop the two firearm killings over the weekend, it has a magical part they haven’t told as about as yet?
Can somebody tell me when the deadline is to comply with this ?
please
Five years from inception of the register in June 2023 unless a triggering event occurs prior
For ammunition it's 2 years from inception as they haven't built the system for that yet I'm guessing.
From https://www.firearmssafetyauthority.govt.nz/firearms-registry/when-register-or-update-your-information
If no activating circumstance applies to you before 24 June 2028, you’re required to provide information for the Registry by 31 August 2028.
Did mine today. Have to say the sites clunky, not intuitive, and not particularly logical. Once you get to the actual firearm registration it’s easy enough. Although you need to know your rifles.
What really assumed me was the “Realme” log in. I did mine on my iPad, and it notified me of a data breach and recommended I change my Realme password.
So while on the Realme page, I search for change my password.
Nothing, pages upon pages of how to change my gender. Change my name, change my pronoun. Change my ethnicity. But change my password? No sir.
Only 10%, huge success so far! https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/35...odule#cxrecs_s
It's super easy. Just log in on the Realme page and go to settings. Option to change password is right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lauries Hut
Realme also uses 2FA which is good and recommended to set up if you haven't already.