Thread: Warning Distressing and Disturbing Photographs- 1080 Poison

Originally Posted by Gibo

Not really a valid comment sorry Savage. We kill mustalids etc to stop them killing birds. But if we kill the birds in the process are we doing the right thing? All day long i will support a move to spend 1080 money on paying experts to kill the vermin. Jmo

bykill of non-target species is significantly smaller than the impact on target pest species, net positive effect

Originally Posted by gimp

bykill of non-target species is significantly smaller than the impact on target pest species, net positive effect

So if it kills 40-80 percent of kea each drop and they are very slow breeders and rats mice stoats ferrits possum are much faster breeders how can there ever be a net gain for the kea?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

So if it kills 40-80 percent of kea each drop and they are very slow breeders and rats mice stoats ferrits possum are much faster breeders how can there ever be a net gain for the kea?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

So if it kills 40-80 percent of kea each drop and they are very slow breeders and rats mice stoats ferrits possum are much faster breeders how can there ever be a net gain for the kea?

Your not going to be this quick and intelligence in June are you? We will not entertain you with our intelligence

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Originally Posted by Neckshot

Your not going to be this quick and intelligence in June are you? We will not entertain you with our intelligence

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Entertain some common sense then ? Sorry I should not have used numbers I know you have trouble with them

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

So if it kills 40-80 percent of kea each drop and they are very slow breeders and rats mice stoats ferrits possum are much faster breeders how can there ever be a net gain for the kea?

Oh god I've walked into a 1080 argument in the year 2014 what the fuck is wrong with me

Where do you get 40-80% from?

Since 2008, 155 kea have been monitored through ten 1080 operations with 20 (12.9%) recorded fatalities.

Recent research at Okarito showed that following the 1080 pest control operation in 2011 kea nesting success in the treated area increased from 51% to 100%. Nesting success of 38% was recorded in a nearby untreated area. The following year 69% of nests in the treated area succeeded, compared to 1% in the untreated area. The Kea Conservation Trust is carrying out similar nest monitoring at Otira.

More work needed on kea repellent: Media release 21 August 2013

Originally Posted by gimp

Oh god I've walked into a 1080 argument in the year 2014 what the fuck is wrong with me

Where do you get 40-80% from?



More work needed on kea repellent: Media release 21 August 2013

Docs figures when they killed almost all of our tagged kea near Okorito.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Docs figures when they killed almost all of our tagged kea near Okorito.

Doesn't reflect the average bykill and positive effects, and also doesn't reflect the fact that there is ongoing research to reduce the bykill, etc


Like, do you guys not get that DoC actually like native species and really want to help them, and are actively trying to.