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    Cheers for that Beavis. Those are good point to think about.
    Not really worried about QD as once the sling is on, it'll probably stay there.
    My R15 only has std QD mounts. 2 on the hand guard and 1 in the stock.
    Looking at other ways to sling it as I quite like the side mounted idea.
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    Quick question 30 round mags . By law is that an E cat item or can you own them in NZ? I don't have any by the way but have been offered some
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    Quick question 30 round mags . By law is that an E cat item or can you own them in NZ? I don't have any by the way but have been offered some
    I believe if you have an A cat AR or other semi and you also have E mags in your possession for the same gun you have a problem if boy in blue arrive.
    Just get both endorsements (like me) then they can all live in the same safe happily ever after according to my AO, I don't need to store them separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikee View Post
    I believe if you have an A cat AR or other semi and you also have E mags in your possession for the same gun you have a problem if boy in blue arrive.
    Just get both endorsements (like me) then they can all live in the same safe happily ever after according to my AO, I don't need to store them separately.
    Thank you going thru the process will grab them when fully out the other side Cheers
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    its also illegal to have that 30 shot mag in a A-cat weapon. regardless of your licence FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill999 View Post
    its also illegal to have that 30 shot mag in a A-cat weapon. regardless of your licence FYI
    That is 100% correct, They can be stored together if you have same model rifle on E but YOU CAN NEVER FIT A MAG WHICH CONTAINS OR APPEARS TO CONTAIN MORE THAN 7 ROUNDS to ANY A cat firearm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikee View Post
    That is 100% correct, They can be stored together if you have same model rifle on E but YOU CAN NEVER FIT A MAG WHICH CONTAINS OR APPEARS TO CONTAIN MORE THAN 7 ROUNDS to ANY A cat firearm
    So if I have this right : Once you have E Cat licence to own E Cat firearm and if you wish to obtain and use 30 rnd mags youd have to tell AO that you want your "A" Cat to become an E cat so then you can lawfully own / use them ?
    But then what if you havee another AR thats "A"...Confusing eh ?
    Thats if they dont all become E Cat when things settled anyway I suppose..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    So if I have this right : Once you have E Cat licence to own E Cat firearm and if you wish to obtain and use 30 rnd mags youd have to tell AO that you want your "A" Cat to become an E cat so then you can lawfully own / use them ?
    But then what if you havee another AR thats "A"...Confusing eh ?
    Thats if they dont all become E Cat when things settled anyway I suppose..
    Not quite, you can't change an A-Cat firearm to become an E-Cat, except those ones from the thumbhole stock saga easy E-Cat endorsement.
    Last edited by dogmatix; 19-02-2013 at 01:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmatix View Post
    Not quite, you can't change an A-Cat firearm to become an E-Cat.
    Not quite... depends on who you know and if they will do it without handin

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikee View Post
    That is 100% correct, They can be stored together if you have same model rifle on E but YOU CAN NEVER FIT A MAG WHICH CONTAINS OR APPEARS TO CONTAIN MORE THAN 7 ROUNDS to ANY A cat firearm
    Actually any semi-auto A cat firearm above a 22LR, ie you are not limited to 7 for a bolt or lever action.
    Last edited by steven; 12-04-2013 at 01:39 PM.

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    I stand corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmatix View Post
    I stand corrected.
    My AO wont do it, but I know of one that does regularly

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    i have been told it is just a form. why would they not? its another tracked firearm - win for nz police one would think

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    Going to be interesting times, what are they going to do about all the A cat ar,s i wonder. Im in the process of getting my E, will wait till the AO comes around to check my safe. And will quiz him, about my a cat ar, do i just wait till HQ deem them all E cat, or try and put it onto E?
    Are you allowed to store A cat rifles with E cat rifles in the same safe tho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxhound View Post
    Going to be interesting times, what are they going to do about all the A cat ar,s i wonder. Im in the process of getting my E, will wait till the AO comes around to check my safe. And will quiz him, about my a cat ar, do i just wait till HQ deem them all E cat, or try and put it onto E?
    Are you allowed to store A cat rifles with E cat rifles in the same safe tho?
    I asked this question many moons ago and my local AO at the time said "why would that be a problem as the requirements for "E" storage are more stringent and my "A" would be store in a much safer place then just the "lockable cupboard" a cat requirements at the time. He said just store the mags separate which is what i do.

 

 

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